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[APP] Heimdall - Let Homey watch over your home.
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What you could do is create a variable with either the build in logic or Better Logic app and set that to a specific value (I'd suggest a boolean so true/false) and evaluate that variable in the flow you posted.
Maybe I'll look into a condition card for the alarm state, but I'm still not sure if I will spend much more time on this app since it's to unclear to me in what direction Athom/Homey is going.
So far I am extremely happy with the work you have done Danee, I would not really see a reason why you should stop investing in this App. Of course, Homey told us in an update that they are looking into Security as well after firmware 2.0 but with the speed they are working I think we rely on your efforts for many years to come still !
PS, I resolved this as per below flow. The yellow "And" states that this flow is ONLY disarming the alarm if the Alarm has not been activated (sometimes the answer is right under our nose );
My worries are not with Athom going to write Security as part of Homey itself (*) but the fact that the Web UI will be removed because of the Mobile Only strategy does worry me.
I can see no way to build a UI for Heimdall settings with a good user experience on what Athom has shown us until now. They've said 'users' can and are free to build their own web ui, but the initiative that was started by some developers has received no support by Athom in fact they basically received a cease and desist.
That said I did find a spare moment and created a condition card:
It will be in version 1.0.15 that I just submitted to the app store, now we have to wait until Athom approves it.
* Athom said Security will be part of Homey itself, seeing the speed in which features, functionalities and fixes in firmware are released I don't think we will see such functionality mature soon in Homey. Keeping it as an app so development speed is decoupled from the speed in which firmwares are released seems like the way to go to me, but then again I'm just a user and from what I read on Slack Athom knows whats best for their users.
But my real question is
Can I use Virtual Device Homey app PIR or contact to be used with Heimdall? (tried, but I think no).
Or can I use camera motion detection to be used in Heimdall?
I have camera's, a NAS and have flows in place to detect the motion on a camera and do something with the triggers in Homey. My doorbell Doorbird is triggered by a Homey app, and my other camera's are triggering events using http posts Homey app. All can be collected and used in Homey in flows.
Then I also can bundle multiple sensors behind one trigger.
And I am puzzling with partly activated, some times I want to swap the partly activated. I have upstairs and downstairs. Most of the time partly is downstairs. But sometimes we have people in the house, and then upstairs should be the partly activated zone. Need partly but then with 2 different zones.
If your Doorbird doorbell doesn't show up in the settngs page of Heimdall it's motion detection is not mapped to Homeys alarm_motion capability. A Ring doorbell does have it's motion detection mapped to the alarm_motion capability and thus shows up in Heimdall.
Maybe the developer of the Doorbird app can map the doorbells motion detection to Homeys alarm_motion capability. ( @Phuturist )
But you can use a device with a different capability with Heimdall.
You can create a flow with any desired trigger, check if an Surveillance Mode is set and activate the alarm as shown here https://forum.athom.com/discussion/comment/71004/#Comment_71004
Version 1.0.15
With this card can you can check if an alarm state is active in your flows:
@Hannes85
Thanks again Danee for your continuous efforts.
Regarding the App Only in firmware 2.0... i have to say that I am quite new to homey and have been pretty happy with the web ui (although it craps out at times). I honestly cannot imagine Homey screwing this up so bad that it becomes a pain to work\ monitor apps in the new firmware. These guys are smart . I, for one, wouldn't mind creating my flows on a tablet on the couch to be honest. Currently I am using a surface pro to do all the magic on the couch as well. Quite Comfy! I work in IT so I am quite happy to not have to use my laptop for once and just drag and drop my flows around...
PS: I have no experience with any of the betas that are out there so this is only based on how I would see Homey in an mobile only world..
The community made their own web flow editor (just like homeyda.sh) but that initiative is killed or put in the fridge by Athom. Hope your surface can still do his job when 2.0 comes
Maybe time for a Tasmota-like (firmware replacement for Sonoff products) solution?
I click on the checkbox, but it won't to to false.
I'm trying to run a flow when armed (to swicth a few devices) but they dont seem to kick in...
If so, how can i flick them at the start of the countdown (for setting) but only full disarm?
@vaderag I'm not sure I get your question, the Surveillance Mode will obviously change after the countdown, that's the purpose of using the delay.
Can you post a screenshot of your flow, describe what is does and what you want it to do?
This will enable you to use the Doorbird doorbell for example, thanks @Phuturist for your input and testing. Another confirmed non-sensor device with the alarm_motion capability that will be available is a Virtual Devices Device that is configured with the Device Class Home Alarm and Capability Detected Motion.
I don't know how you'd do it better tho
If you want to set the Surveillance Mode to an armed state instantly, please uncheck the Use delay when enabling (Partially) Armed mode settings.
Version 1.0.16
In this version you can use more devices as inputs for Heimdall. For example Doorbells or Virtual Devices that have the Alarm Motion capability can now be used.
@_Marco_
Will it be ignored for the rest of the time the alarm is armed, or will it join the party once the sensor isn't active anymore.
And can it trigger the alarm after that ?
I hope you get what I mean, reading back what I just typed it somewhat confuses even myself... but you probably get the point
Nice it works Thanks!
For all others, a PIR has a value 0 or 255, zero for no detection and 255 for detection (thats wat a fibaro PIR is telling me)
The doorbird is also found btw.
This will happen (read bottom to top)
When a sensor is tripped you can safely set the Surveillance Mode to Armed or Partially Armed. Heimdall can even warn you when a sensor is tripped while (Partially) Arming*. The Alarm will not be triggered when a sensor is tripped at (Partially) Arming, the sensor will be ignored until it goes 'idle' again. After that triggering that sensor again will set off the Alarm.
* If the setting Check for active motion sensor(s) when arming or Check for open door(s)/window(s) when arming is enabled Heimdall will register an active sensor and you can use the Sensor active at arming flow card to take your desired action and/or you can Let Homey tell you when: a motion sensor is active when arming or Let Homey tell you when: a door or window is open when arming.
Maybe someone can provide images a motion and door sensor to @Arie_Laxed so he can include them in his Virtual Devices App
@_Marco_ could you also post a screenshot of the Doorbird?
Works great.
Only thing im missing yet is a flow card to warn when the alarm arming delay is started.
So when I arm the alarm, the delay starts counting.
Would be nice to have a flowcard available to send me a push message, so I know I have pushed the right button :P