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Wow, is there really no one that understands @MarcoWijk and why he's frustrated with this whole situation? Is no one looking from a end user/consumer standpoint to this situation?
Seriously, if you want to be able to keep enjoying your Homey when it's deliverd Athom really needs to step up, the money they have now will not last if no new sales are created! At the rate it's going now only geeks will keep faith and that's not the group Athom can run a business on to keep the needed environment available!
Let the flaming comence!
We can approximately calculate how much money Athom received from Kickstarter, pre-orders, other funding.
References:
200.000€ - fees: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/athom/homey-the-living-room-talk-to-your-home/description
200.000€ pre-orders (just a guess)
1 mio € investment: https://www.athom.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Athom-funded-for-over-1-million-euros-with-latest-investment-round2.pdf
However it would be nice from Athom to receive some confirmation, they have enough funding to actually deliver stable product for mass sales.
I think everyone is aware of the risks. But creating flame-wars or going on about negative points instead of constructive feedback will create a self fulfilling prophecy. Because all that negative speculation doesnt lead to new sales only cancellations.
I think people should learn to manage expectations when you fund this kind of start-ups, if you cant handle that you should stay a customer and not a backer. People should also not compare to other kickstarters that had a less complex product.
Homey will get there, Is just a small step to get rid of the first bugs. It supports many platforms so i was bound to have a lot of bugs.
And so on unil 1.0 
Just don't sidetrack aka keychains and release a weekly experimental on for example the Friday.
The Friday Build so geeks can play in the weekend and report so Atom can bugfix the rest of the working week
At this point, there is no end user\consumer view as he is a beta-tester. That is the state of the software, it is not enduser\consumr ready. And sure, even as a beta-tester you can get frustrated. Quite understandable! He's trying to get something working that needs to be fixed on a lower level.
The good news is that Emile stated that Athom is focussing on faster updates. This should solve issues more quickly bringing some rest into the "betatester" group.
With regard to their funding: recently there was a job opening at Athom for a lead app developer (i think). It would not make sense to hire a lead app developer if you are low on funding. The companies financial state is probably proprietary information (i wouldn't give that information to my competitors), so i'd be surprised if that was made available. But ofcourse Athom is wecome to chime in.
No flaming necessary..
My homey doesn't listen, but apparently it's because I turned the led ring off, so I really, really, really want to get home to test it now
Not to nag, but that statement is "Wij van WC-eend" , or don't you guys know that expression.
I'm a Multi bulti miljonair. Guess you guys also believe that because of my blond hairs and blue eyes.
Nevertheless, i think Homey has enough investors on there great idea to keep up for some time.
I't's not for nothing it already had a place on the mediamarkt website.....
I'm confident that they will make Homey a god in just a few more firmware updates
The end of my comments.
Why are the user that has problems get the blame when Athom upgrade to version 0.08.020 *).
They had to be clear there Homey from all data.
To clear 20+ KaKu devices and pair them later again is not fair to ask. Those 20+ has found some nasty bugs.
For me there had to be looked to the differences between the .017 and .020 versions in that part what gives the problem. Asking for data from your Homey is normal to do.
For people who like every complain to see as flaming.
From WiKipedia
Flaming is a hostile and insulting interaction between Internet users, often involving the use of profanity. It can also be the swapping of insults back and forth or with many groups teaming up on a single victim.
When the first batch was out there came questions: where are the reactions of those first batchers.
One of them seems to understand what could be the case: there was nothing to tell.
Yes indeed, there was then nothing to tell from the super secret test forum.
There where bug found, yes but after a few I start thinking 'what and how have they tested'.
The big problem was the communication.
On one occasion I ask for a reaction and I receive a not nice one.
'It was wasting of valuable time'.
But when I looked in the time line there has giving an answer elsewhere on a not important post in a thread that was related on that where was asking for.
That felt like a slap in my face
Then the version updates, where I coming from 0.08.005.
That in the beginning some good working stuff not working any more is understandable.
After 2 or 3 version upgrade it had to be solved. Sadly no, its going still every update with even a bricked one.
My Homey is still switched off from Friday. So I don't trust version update any more.
When you like to help out to look for bugs you have needed the latest version them I am out.
*) With the promises quick version updates you need more numbers.
@MarcoWijk
Thanks for the support.
What is not sure is a power reboot with Homey. Do Homey looks then also to that choice?
Be nice to know if logging into your homey without an internet connection is possible.
'Test 1,2,3' gets translated to 'i just want to drink', 'stop' becomes 'so 3', ...
Let's see what changed...
System info now shows the amount of system memory an the memory in use, and how it's used.
Next try: late afternoon.
tick off - tick on - power reboot. No result.
tick off - power reboot - tick on - power reboot. No result.
tick off - tick on - power reboot. No result.
Really no time now for further testing.
That is not what I going to do now. Both of them.
Looking to the .022 thread is no use to do it now.
If I can Homey not upgrade the normal way then, for now, no way.
Edit.
When I looked to the firmware page now, 16:22, I saw that the 022 is becoming experimental.
This was not this morning.