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Do we need a system log?

MichaelMichael Member
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I see a lot of issues described here without any insights in what happened. Wouldn't it be good to have a proper log file where you can see exactly what happened? Also what speech homey received, etc. 
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  • DD Member
    https://forum.athom.com/discussion/732/request-please-show-timestamp-last-run-of-a-flow-and-optionally-a-log-of-all-of-them-0-8-17
    https://github.com/athombv/homey/issues/104
    https://github.com/athombv/homey/issues/93
  • MichaelMichael Member
    Whoops. I searched, but "log" and "logging" gave such a big result that I couldn't find anything.
    With all the new people on the forum the amount of topics are exploding :smile: 
  • DD Member
    Michael said:
    Whoops. I searched, but "log" and "logging" gave such a big result that I couldn't find anything.
    With all the new people on the forum the amount of topics are exploding :smile: 
    True! I think the logging will be introduced fairly soon, judging by the reactions from Athom. :smile: 
  • UrandayUranday Member
    I would love log. When developing it would be very nice to drop in extra logging outputted to this log. 
  • EmileEmile Administrator, Athom
    We're going to add a Notification Center, where events like 'Jack came home', 'Homey updated to x.x.x' etc. will be shown :-)

    To see what Homey heard, visit http://<homey_ip>/manager/speech-input/
    To see what Homey said, visit http://<homey_ip>/manager/speech-output/

  • Fire69Fire69 Member
    Emile said:
    We're going to add a Notification Center, where events like 'Jack came home', 'Homey updated to x.x.x' etc. will be shown :-)

    To see what Homey heard, visit http://<homey_ip>/manager/speech-input/
    To see what Homey said, visit http://<homey_ip>/manager/speech-output/

    https://forum.athom.com/discussion/comment/10112/#Comment_10112

    If you use http://<homey_ip>/manager/speech-input/, is this actually what Homey hears?
    Or is it translated by the Webkit engine as @BramSloot says?
  • EmileEmile Administrator, Athom
    edited February 2016
    The text that appears above the input field is what Homey hears.

    Please note that, as also mentioned in the Kickstarter update, the microphone needs a lot of calibration from us to get right.
  • MarcoFMarcoF Member
    @emile;
    When and how are you calibrating the mic?
  • EmileEmile Administrator, Athom
    @MarcoF it's a very complicated process. I'll write a blog about it someday when I have the time :)
  • MarcoFMarcoF Member
    @Emile ;
    • How? Special (mic) (firmwar) update or ?
    • When? On every 1/2/4 weekly Firmware update or ?
    A lot of users have big troubles to get voice work, so it would be nice to know what the calibration plans are.
  • EmileEmile Administrator, Athom
    edited February 2016
    Software only. Expect 4 - 8 weeks before it's considered `good`.
  • PeterGroenewegPeterGroeneweg Member
    Great to hear. Are the inputs from all Homey's who are alive used for this?
  • EmileEmile Administrator, Athom
    edited February 2016
    Yep! At least the 'OK Homey' training data.
  • MarcoFMarcoF Member
    do you guys save voice data?
  • Fire69Fire69 Member
    Is this an automated process?  If you have to listen to the data from the voice training, I think you will be hearing a lot of cursing!  :#
  • MarkVanDerHeijdenMarkVanDerHeijden Member
    edited February 2016
    Off topic, but does this mean that basically I could open the "speech-input" page on any mic-equipped device that runs Chrome, and it'll work as an extra mic? That would be cool :)
  • Fire69Fire69 Member
    I tried that yesterday, but Homey didn't react to it.  Don't know if it's supposed to...
  • bvdbosbvdbos Member
    It did for me, at least for typing. I could type "play some music by rammmstein" and it worked...
  • DaneeDeKruyffDaneeDeKruyff Member
    Emile said:
    Software only. Expect 4 - 8 weeks before it's considered `good`.

    Does this have consequences for the shipment of the next batch? Or was this a for seen action?
  • MichaelMichael Member
    Aaaaaaand back on topic :smile:

    I don't really understand why there will not be a proper log. I mean, a notification center just displays what happened in understandable sentences and is mainly focussed on end-users.

    What I'm looking for is just a raw/plain log somewhere hidden in the geek area where you can just see all the details about what happened and what went wrong. Especially during this first period when a lot of issues will appear I can imagine that for Athom it's also good to have proper logging. Or do you already get this through another channel?
  • MarcoFMarcoF Member
    +1 to raw/plain logging!
    Better 10 log line to many, then 1 line not logged.
  • HansSchenkelaarsHansSchenkelaars Member
    +1
  • MennoVanGrinsvenMennoVanGrinsven Member
    What we want is SSH access and be able to pull a syslog.
  • MarcoFMarcoF Member
    @MennoVanGrinsven ;
    I think we can forget that.....or in dutch; dat kun op je buik schrijven.
  • TedTolboomTedTolboom Member
    @MarcoF ,
    I'm starting to feel a challenge coming up  B)
  • MarcoFMarcoF Member
    edited February 2016
    Take it!

    I would love to have SSH access, but i think (and hope for Athom) its highly secured/restricted.
  • UrandayUranday Member
    Michael said:
    Aaaaaaand back on topic :smile:

    I don't really understand why there will not be a proper log. I mean, a notification center just displays what happened in understandable sentences and is mainly focussed on end-users.

    What I'm looking for is just a raw/plain log somewhere hidden in the geek area where you can just see all the details about what happened and what went wrong. Especially during this first period when a lot of issues will appear I can imagine that for Athom it's also good to have proper logging. Or do you already get this through another channel?
    Also for development this would really help.
  • MichaelMichael Member
    Small bump. Apparently the logs we send to Athom contains lots of valuable info. Why are they closed to the users?
  • nklerknklerk Member
    I also would love to be able to see raw log files.
  • mruitermruiter Member
    edited April 2016
    +3, for every homey in my house one :)
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