[App] ID Lock Z-wave - Main Discussion topic (v1.0.1)

TedTolboom · December 2017

ID Lock (Z-wave)

This app adds support for ID Lock Z-wave devices made by ID Lock AS working on the Z-wave protocol.

Links:

Supported devices

ID Lock 101 (incl. Z-Wave module board 01A), features:

Door lock / unlocked
Door open / closed (contact alarm)
Heat alarm
Tamper alarm
Battery (alarm)

Supported Languages:

English

Feedback:

Any requests please post them in the ID Lock topic on the Athom Forum or contact me on Slack

If possible, please report issues at the issues section on Github otherwise in the above mentioned topic.

Change Log:

v 1.0.1
* Remove (and overrule) default getOnOnline triggers to try to resolve battery draining issue

v 1.0.0
* App store release for ID lock 101 (including Z-Wave module board 01A)

mranderson · December 2016

Hi,

I've been looking for a good z wave door lock for my main door, that is/will be compatible with homey.

ID lock looks like a promising z wave+ product, but I don't really know whats needed for making an app for this. The company pointed me to this pdf, but I don't really know if it will suffice. Can anyone help?
I did som basic jsp-programming back in university, so hopefully the learning curve shouldn't be that steep.

Image: https://futurehome.no/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/shop-idlock.png

frtnbach · March 2017

Did you ever get anywhere with this? I have an ID-Lock that I'd love to get working in homey.

mranderson · March 2017

Nope. I also hope someone competent can make an app, looks like a promising product. Are you satisfied with yours?

frtnbach · March 2017

The lock is great. I went from a Danalock to the ID Lock, and the difference in quality is astounding. At the moment I have it paired with my old Fibaro HC2. Works great, the pairing process went flawlessly. I even dusted off my old Homebridge to Fibaro bridge so I can use Siri to lock and unlock the door, plus I get notifications via HomeKit when the door is locked/unlocked.

mranderson · March 2017

Good to hear! I've read somewhere if you have lost a rfid key to the lock, the only way to practically exclude/delete it was to re-pair all the remaining valid keys again. Hardly a good solution since I have valid keys that are not in my possesion (my extended family etc). Is this still the case?

frtnbach · March 2017

It is, for the moment. The Z wave module have functionality to remove/pair a single key without needing to start over, but there's no software that supports it yet.

TobyGriffin · March 2017

You say that the difference is astounding, but is it working well as a lock?

How is the hardware of the lock itself? I keep having issues with smart locks where I am getting false locking updates. But that is because the motor on the bolt is not strong enough to force its way into the strike.

Is the convenience what is good, or is there also a good level of security and overall lock effectiveness?

frtnbach · March 2017

It's working very well. This is my third lock, I've had a Glue, a Danalock and now this. There's no comparison. Well, there shouldn't be really as both the Glue and the Danalock are aftermarket add-ons to existing locks and the ID Lock is a complete product where you change the whole lock including the locking mechanism itself. A bit more complicated, but the end result is much better.

It locks and unlocks in under a second. I've never had it fail, and as far as I know I've never missed an update. I have a very high level of confidence that it'll lock itself behind me when I leave the house, so high in fact that I've actually stopped checking, and it hasn't failed to unlock itself once. I'm starting to sound bit like a fanboy here, but I'm actually very impressed with it. The only downside is on the software side, where I don't think there's any platform today that supports the lock 100%.

JPe · March 2017

@mranderson
maybe you can take a copy of the GitHub Smartlock examples :
https://github.com/jordenc/io.nuki.smartlock
https://github.com/athombv/com.danalock
https://github.com/timeggleston/com.yalelock
and make the changes you need for the ID-lock
https://forum.athom.com/discussion/1448/how-to-cli-install-method#latest for details how-to

MbenzNo · May 2017

Hey!

Did anyone succeed in making an app for Id Lock? I am no programmer myself, and would like to se an app for this lock.

jorden · May 2017

This requires z-wave knowledge, which is a complete different kind of ballgame than the other types of apps. I bet @baskiers of Athom could create one real quick if he had one of these locks.

MbenzNo · June 2017

I contacted ID lock by Facebook message, and asked if they could make an Homey app for ID lock. I gave them links to https://developers.athom.com/ for information. They responded that they would look into it.

It would probably be a good Idea if more people contacted ID Lock with a request for a Homey app.

anne · June 2017

It looks like a good product, not too long ago I had a multi-point lock ('meerpuntssluiting') fitted though

Some thoughts on an app, I think the changes of ID Lock making a Homey app are slim to none, at the very least someone would have to send a Homey to Norway

An app will need to come from the community, or perhaps Athom, if they have the time and someone provides a lock.

Creating an app should be straightforward, as mentioned above, https://apps.athom.com/app/com.yalelock could serve as an example. The zwave details of the lock appear to be well documented, refer to http://products.z-wavealliance.org/products/2293. The product ID is 2293, enter it in https://developers.athom.com/library/zwave/generator/ and you have the app.json file for the app, it's a start ;-)

MARO · July 2017

I also hope that somebody with the right knowledge can make this app for the idlock smart lock.

swttt · July 2017

Looks nice, but seems expensive. Kinda happy with my Nuki now. But looks like something i might buy in the future

TedTolboom · July 2017

I tried to contact ID lock on this question, so far no response (at all)...

TedTolboom · July 2017

Just received an initial response that I will get a response after the summer holidays (beginning of August)...

jani · October 2017

Any news on this topic?

TedTolboom · October 2017

jani said:

Any news on this topic?

No, didn't get a response yet. I will check once more.

johnniemalm · October 2017

I have this lock to, if they supprt idlock i will get one Homey, today I have HC2

MrZANE · October 2017

johnniemalm said:

I have this lock to, if they supprt idlock i will get one Homey, today I have HC2

I have a Homey and if it would support the ID-Lock, I'd buy an ID-Lock :-)
Seems like it would be beneficial to both parties if it was to get support

JPe · October 2017

TedTolboom said:

Just received an initial response that I will get a response after the summer holidays (beginning of August)...

Hi Ted, are summer holidays already over? Did you receive any response yet?

TedTolboom · October 2017

JPe said:

TedTolboom said:

Just received an initial response that I will get a response after the summer holidays (beginning of August)...

Hi Ted, are summer holidays already over? Did you receive any response yet?

Mine are long gone.
Requested an update at ID Lock, hope to get an update by early next week due to absence of their CEO.

johnniemalm · October 2017

What about this ? https://github.com/TedTolboom/no.IDLock

TedTolboom · October 2017

johnniemalm said:

What about this ? https://github.com/TedTolboom/no.IDLock

Yeah, what is it?

johnniemalm · October 2017

TedTolboom said:

johnniemalm said:

What about this ? https://github.com/TedTolboom/no.IDLock

Yeah, what is it?

Oh yes :-) I see now that it is you :-) does it work ok ? it is no problem to install on Homey when I get it today ? (new to this)

JPe · October 2017

@johnniemalm ; https://forum.athom.com/discussion/1448/how-to-cli-install-method

TedTolboom · October 2017

johnniemalm said:

TedTolboom said:

johnniemalm said:

What about this ? https://github.com/TedTolboom/no.IDLock

Yeah, what is it?

Oh yes :-) I see now that it is you :-) does it work ok ? it is no problem to install on Homey when I get it today ? (new to this)

To answer the question with some more ASCII's
So, yes I made an initial version of a ID Lock app with initial support for the ID Lock 101 lock.

@jani tested this app and driver for me (in lack of a having a test unit myself) and basic operation (lock / unlock) seems to be working correctly.

What is not working:
- Notifications (in case of e.g. wrong code)
- RFID operation / changing settings

Not tested:
- Battery reporting has not been tested yet (just added polling of the battery)
- Changing parameters

I expect to need a lock myself for additional debugging to get the notifications and RFID operation working;
awaiting feedback of IDLock on this.

So testing of this app / driver is at your own risk.

johnniemalm · October 2017

TedTolboom said:

johnniemalm said:

TedTolboom said:

johnniemalm said:

What about this ? https://github.com/TedTolboom/no.IDLock

Yeah, what is it?

Oh yes :-) I see now that it is you :-) does it work ok ? it is no problem to install on Homey when I get it today ? (new to this)

To answer the question with some more ASCII's
So, yes I made an initial version of a ID Lock app with initial support for the ID Lock 101 lock.

@jani tested this app and driver for me (in lack of a having a test unit myself) and basic operation (lock / unlock) seems to be working correctly.

What is not working:
- Notifications (in case of e.g. wrong code)
- RFID operation / changing settings

Not tested:
- Battery reporting has not been tested yet (just added polling of the battery)
- Changing parameters

I expect to need a lock myself for additional debugging to get the notifications and RFID operation working;
awaiting feedback of IDLock on this.

So testing of this app / driver is at your own risk.

ok, that I understand,give me a few days as I have 2 locks like this (101) I will try this for you.

and about Changing parameters, that would be great, but as it is not possible now anyway, tha most critical is lock/unlock and see if it is locked/unlocked

thanks

TedTolboom · October 2017

@johnniemalm your effort is appreciated....
is it possible to contact me on Slack (athomcommunity.slack.com, invite via athom.com)?