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Cheap doorbell to actually be a doorbell

PhuturistPhuturist Member
in Questions & Help
In various posts and a video a cheap 433 MHz doorbell is suggested and used to trigger a flow.

My dumb doorbell needs a replacement as it tend to get stuck so I was looking for solutions. There are some costly zwave solutions out there, often with intercom and camera. I don't really care for those. I'd just like a chime to ring and perhaps get a notification on my phone.

The Aeon Labs ZW056 Z-Wave Plus Doorbell Gen5 seems like a nice zwave solution but I think is not available outside the US yet. And still pretty expensive compared to the cheap solution I'd like to know more about.

Would it be possible to replace the doorbell with one of those cheap doorbells that keep getting mentioned and have Homey play chime when the button is pressed (and perhaps do other things).

Any other suggestions on a smart doorbell that works with Homey are welcome as well ... :smile: 
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  • p0ntsp0nts Member
    edited December 2015
    Kika acdb-7000b is a cheap 433 mhz device that can be used behind a existing cheap normal doorbell.

    Homey should be able to retreive its signal and do something with it.
  • MarcoVanDenHoutMarcoVanDenHout Member
    I would think that should work, as a wireless doorbell button is a working input to Homey and it can also output sound. It could also flash lights for you if you have Hue or a remote controlled switch...
  • p0ntsp0nts Member
    Assuming you are dutch, check this forum topic where you can read how to keep the origional bell plus activate the sensor i've linked above and make homey do something.

    http://www.nodo-domotica.nl/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1572
  • PhuturistPhuturist Member
    p0nts said:
    Assuming you are dutch, check this forum topic where you can read how to keep the origional bell plus activate the sensor i've linked above and make homey do something.

    http://www.nodo-domotica.nl/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1572
    Thanks p0nts, I had already seen similar tweak solutions online but I'm not very good when it comes to soldering and electric schemes and all that. I'm looking for a more out-of-the-box solution. But there are plenty of options that work on 433 MHz out there, as long is this works I wont be hard to find something that suits me.
  • EmileEmile Administrator, Athom
    edited December 2015
    Just buy a doorbell (we use Alecto and have them already working), and they'll keep working as normal. Homey just notices when they go off, and then can do something with that information, e.g. flash the lights or send a push notification to your phone (or only when you're not at home) :-)
  • RobinVanKekemRobinVanKekem Member
    A simple guide to have your existing door bell to send a Z-Wave signal:

  • PhuturistPhuturist Member
    RobinVanKekem said:
    A simple guide to have your existing door bell to send a Z-Wave signal:

    Thanx Robin, that might actually be of use as I decided to keep my existing doorbell but add a smart device to it. I have looked at a solution with a COCO device but Zwave will be better.
  • RobinVanKekemRobinVanKekem Member
    Phuturist said:
    RobinVanKekem said:
    A simple guide to have your existing door bell to send a Z-Wave signal:

    Thanx Robin, that might actually be of use as I decided to keep my existing doorbell but add a smart device to it. I have looked at a solution with a COCO device but Zwave will be better.
    My thoughts exactly.
    I want everything to continue to work if internet, my local network or, in the exceptionally case, if Homey fails.
  • 0burner00burner0 Member

    I will also try to use a KaKu . Then I want to get a push message to my phone and sonos may create the bell sound . What I was wondering is when I get my Homey got inside and I want to play with FIBARO then I do not need at home center FIBARO . This function has homey right?
  • ArnoudDeJongArnoudDeJong Member
    Was just paring the Alecto to the Homey. It was recognized very quickly and appears in the devices list. But when I add it to a new flow. Nothing happened. I tried the button 'pressed' and 'released' event. I'm running Homey 0.8.17 and using this doorbel: http://www.alecto.nl/draadloze-deurbel-16. 

    In the appstore it is mentioned that the ADB-12 is not supported, does that also apply to the ADB-16?

    Anyone else got this working?
  • ArnoudDeJongArnoudDeJong Member
    People from Athom: which version are you using? I still have the same issue with this doorbell.
  • PeterNijenbrinkPeterNijenbrink Member
    Does Homey works with https://ring.com ?

  • SpikeBSpikeB Member
    Phuturist said:
    RobinVanKekem said:
    A simple guide to have your existing door bell to send a Z-Wave signal:

    Thanx Robin, that might actually be of use as I decided to keep my existing doorbell but add a smart device to it. I have looked at a solution with a COCO device but Zwave will be better.
    I have this working, it's great that it works even without an controller 
  • bvdbosbvdbos Member
    I bought the cheapest of the cheapest, just for fun and as a gamlbe... But is seems to be a 433 Mhz device so hope to get it working as soon we have some logging-tools for playing with 433...
    http://www.smartwaressafetylighting.eu/Downloads.ashx?website=SAL&productid=10.007.65&filename=DoC_1000765_20160114.pdf

  • Fire69Fire69 Member
    BasVanDenBosch said:
    I bought the cheapest of the cheapest, just for fun and as a gamlbe... But is seems to be a 433 Mhz device so hope to get it working as soon we have some logging-tools for playing with 433...
    http://www.smartwaressafetylighting.eu/Downloads.ashx?website=SAL&productid=10.007.65&filename=DoC_1000765_20160114.pdf

    A couple of months ago, I bought a doorbell at Action, also because it was 433mhz and I thought that I could use it with Homey maybe.
    Only cost me 5€ :smiley: 
  • MarcoFMarcoF Member
    @Fire69 and @BasVanDenBosch ;
    Which doorbell did you buy/have and do the work with Homey?

    Our current Elro isn't working and want to buy a new one..
  • jordenjorden Member
    I myself used the KlikAanKliKUit doorbell on our Office:
    https://www.bol.com/nl/p/klikaanklikuit-draadloze-deurbel-met-spatwaterichte-drukknop-acdb-7000ac/9200000008211960/

    Got it working in like 0.1 seconds with Homey. Too bad they only seem to sell it in packages with the receiver as well.

    Added a soundboard dingdong to it, works very good.
  • bvdbosbvdbos Member
    http://www.smartwaressafetylighting.eu/en-us/door-chime-sets/door-chime-kit-50m-w-f-battery-db401e?page=2
    Byron / Smartwares with this number but even simpeler, just one sound...

    Just tried but this isn't working yet... Guess we need to get the code first but afaik it should be able to work (hopefully cause I hate the sound of this bell)
  • posthokposthok Member
    Emile said:
    Just buy a doorbell (we use Alecto and have them already working), and they'll keep working as normal. Homey just notices when they go off, and then can do something with that information, e.g. flash the lights or send a push notification to your phone (or only when you're not at home) :-)
    Emile could you program Alecto app so that I can send a signal in the then section. I've got a receiver (doorbel) who uses this protocol and i want to switch it
  • PhuturistPhuturist Member
    I have bought a Kaku acdb-7000b which I have hooked up to my regular doorbell circuit using a relay. Until now I have been unable to pair it. Did manage to switch a kaku socket with it. I'll do some more testing with the new kaku app but I'm away from home for a week so this will take some time 
  • RocodamelsheRocodamelshe Member
    Phuturist said:
    I have bought a Kaku acdb-7000b which I have hooked up to my regular doorbell circuit using a relay. Until now I have been unable to pair it. Did manage to switch a kaku socket with it. I'll do some more testing with the new kaku app but I'm away from home for a week so this will take some time 
    Same setup except I use the acdb-7000bc.
    Dunno if that's a big difference but it works like a charm here. Is working for like 2 weeks on 0.8.29
  • PeaoPeao Member
    Is there any solution if you just want to replace your "bell" that is connected via wires to the button by a z-wave device? Not the button itself.
  • Fire69Fire69 Member
    MarcoF said:
    @Fire69 and @BasVanDenBosch ;
    Which doorbell did you buy/have and do the work with Homey?

    Our current Elro isn't working and want to buy a new one..
    Doorbell from Action, brand is SelectPlus, there isn't even a modelnumber on it  :D
    Not yet working with Homey, hope they include the code learning soon.
    I'm pretty sure it's not encoded, my neighbor had to return his new doorbell this week because it rang when we had visitors!  :#
  • RamonBaasRamonBaas Member
    Peao said:
    Is there any solution if you just want to replace your "bell" that is connected via wires to the button by a z-wave device? Not the button itself.
    See this project: http://www.robbshop.nl/over-z-wave/z-wave-projecten/z-wave-deurbel
  • MarcoFMarcoF Member
    Just bought a ACDB-7000AC and it worked right away. 
    Created a flow;


    And that also works like a "charm", where in some cases Homey reacts maybe 0,5-1 sec later then the doorbell itself.

    Great solution and WAF is pretty high!
    (WAF would be times 2 if Homey could play the wav to our JBL Bluetooth speaker).
  • jovinkjovink Member
    Peao said:
    Is there any solution if you just want to replace your "bell" that is connected via wires to the button by a z-wave device? Not the button itself.
    And if you want KAKU you can do it with this

    I have a ACDB-700A and this works great.
    You can buy it here (only the button)

  • MarcoFMarcoF Member
    We don't have a fixed doorbell and mainly because of the AC-AC transformator is very power inefficient.
    But the relay could be very nice addition to a fixed doorbell.
  • RocodamelsheRocodamelshe Member
    U can even play the MP3 on ur Sonos speakers if u like (well, at least i do) with the http get app.
  • YvesGeffensYvesGeffens Member
    Rocodamelshe Would you be so kind to share with us how you do that?

  • RocodamelsheRocodamelshe Member
    I have some Sonos php code running on my synology and call it in a flow with a http get command. That way I also mute sonos after "ok homey" since my homey is standing about 10 cm away from my sonos playbar.
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