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The battery drain was slow the first weeks, and rapid the last days:
The sensor is not used; it is kept with the magnet attached to it. So; no ON/OFF signals are sent.
The sabotage alarm is activated 24/7. This is caused by the inner button not being pressed in all the time, due to the plastic clip breaking off. It has been like this since I paired it with Homey. So, the first weeks it did not effect the battery consumption and seems irrelevant for the sudden battery drain.
These are the settings (it is an old version and does not have a temperature sensor built in / attached!):
What is a normal battery life span?
What could have caused the drain the last week?
Could it be related to the firmware update?
The Neo Touch switch does not support this in the conventional way (i.e. with wires). It does not have a wissel connection on it; just a Load and Neutral supply and 2 connection connectors leading to the double lights.
It is possible to interconnect the left switch of both switches by means of the Neo app on Homey (via direct association), to create a similar function. The right switch is for now not possible, because that would require multichannel association which is not supported yet by Homey...
Today I received the Neo Touch single wall switch. When I try to add it to Homey, the switch is added as 'unknown Z-Wave device'. Homey also tells me there is no app installed matching the device. I have the latest Neo app installed, tried the app store and also the latest GitHub version. They both give the same problem.
Nonetheless, the switch does work and the status also changes correctly. Main problem is that I cannot change any settings. If I am correct, the single switch is already supported (mentioned on the app store page). In that case it should install like all the other Neo devices. Or is this still in development? I am still on FW 1.3.1 btw.
Can you post a screenshot of the product ID's? Based on that we can include it into the next update of the Neo app...
I guess this is what you need? If I can help with anything else, let me know!
I think they look great
I just got my double wall switch and I was wondering, can they also be used for dimming? Have not installed it yet so that is why I ask.
greetings,
Aaron
It does not support Central Scene Class (e.g. key held) or dimming related Command Class commands (like multilevel switch).
Not sure if dimmers are anywhere soon on the Neo roadmap; perhaps @m-ruiter knows?
I do expect to receive a MCOhome Touch panel dimmer soon which should be able to dim (again obvious)...
MCOhome is nice but more expensive. But then again, if it works and looks nice.....
I must say that I am really surprised by the quality of the build of the Neo. It really looks and feels nice. Does it support double tap maybe?
I wonder If you would see a major differance between the Neo and the MCO when you put them next to each other. If not we could combine them.
greetings,
Aaron
Biggest difference is the thickness of the panel; 11 mm for the MCO home (with 4 mm glass) and 8 for the Neo (with ~1mm plastic panel)...
One thing that I miss in the cards is the "is switched" card. Now I have to make 2 flows. One to turn lichts on and one to turn them off. If I could use the "is switched" card I could use the and/or column to see if it is on or off. Is that something that could be added? Or is it simply not possible with the Neo switch?
One thing for others trying to install the switch, be careful when you remove the pannel, I broke the glass and I did not even use extreme force.
greetings,
Aaron
From what I can see only difference is the way they attach? 1 seems to have a Fibaro style grip where as 2 seems to have some kind of magnetic dome?! Or is the 2 different (better?) in other ways?
I was going to buy some Fibaro ones as think I'll find the light level sensing useful and maybe even the temp (tho can't think how right now), but if these can do the same job then it's quite a saving!
Also, has anyone integrated the cam's into their setup or are they totally separate?
Thanks!
Both devices use the same sensors and therefore lack a temperature sensor (although some shops indicate "temperature sensing")...
The Neo doorcam is a wifi based cam and therefore not supported by the Neo app (focussing on the Z-wave devices).
I have seen several reviews where people provided feedback that the quality of the cam is not good (enough)...
But then after this someone says it does not
Wondering if that person just wasn't aware of the app not being updated, or if it in fact does not?
Also, can anyone confirm if this has LEDs like the Fibaro ones?
Thanks!
my reply above was written before i saw this! Would still like to know about the led's mind...
I think i prefer the V1 look, so may go for that
One other question - I have no other Z-wave devices (yet) - i see that may cause issues - should I be concerned?
I plan to get 2 of these and maybe one door sensor to start...
Please be aware that battery powered Z-wave (as well as Zigbee) devices do not create a mesh network.
So if you only add sensors (PIR and door sensors), the range will be limited to the range of the device itself; typically 5-7m (depending on the construction type of your house)...
An option can be to add some Neo power plugs, to establish this mesh network...
EDIT: Ah - just realised that the Neo plugs are EU only, not UK plug type... anyone know a UK variant that might solve this issue?
EDIT2: Would a Fibaro Dimmer do the same job to help build the mesh? Are there any (cheap, maybe chinese?!) equivalents to that!?
Any non-battery powered Z-wave device (e.g. Fibaro dimmer) will create a mesh network.
So - are there any things similar to the Fibaro dimmer from someone like Neo? I have no Neutral in my light switches so without major effort many of the other devices wont work (especially not by giving me a UK style switch). I had planned to go LightwaveRF but now that I know that I need a Zwave mesh it seems to make sense to go Zwave in some capacity
After months of moderate performance with my NEO wallsockets (see my previous posts here)
In combination with a Fibaro motion sensor, I've decided to buy a fibaro socket and a dimmer 2.
Complaints were very unreliable sockets with no extra data readings as power etc.
And didn't connect in the z-wave mesh diagram. I've tried many things but never with a a good result.
I decided to remove all my z-wave components and return them to factory settings.
Then I start adding everything to Homey. First the Fibaro Dimmer 2, then a Fibaro wall socket and then the Fibaro motion sensor. Immediately there was a complete connected mesh and everything worked out of the box perfectly.
Then I added the NEO sockets. And what turned out ... they worked perfectly?
The range has suddenly been through the entire apartment (was 3-4 meters from Homey), they provide all the extra data etc. I'm super happy! And not to have a pro Fibaro chat but there is obviously something about this positive development. It seems to me that the Fibaro products are a much stronger base to produce a reliable mesh and then expandable with Neo products.
Because I have seen many people with similar problems here, I would like to share this "solution" here. If I can provide additional data to improve conclusions, then I'm allways willing to post them here.
I'm very happy with my results, every problem is gone and everything works like a charm. But the tech-addict in me is still curious what really changed this. Pro Neo conclusion is that the sockets do work fully, I allways wondering if the advanced readings were really a working feature because they never gave any reading. But now the mesh is good, all works fine. And sure to note the much increased distance.
Does anyone have any tips on how to best add my devices so that I have the best coverage? I guess with only one power plug I will not get a mesh network :-(
Is it better to place my devices where I want them, and then move Homey closer to add them or can I add all the devices close to Homey and then move them to where I want them?