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I am running domoticz on it. It took me half a day I have to admit, but the result is that I have now an exact copy of the flows/devices etc. as I had with homey. Not missing one bit. (had mic and led ring already off)
Domoticz have great apps for the phone AND a good web interface for the PC/laptop.
Anyway, as I said, right now I don't really miss my flows/devices. If I see Athom release any updates that are really useful for me, I might reconsider and give them a try. Until then, I'll just wait until there is a bit more known about the direction that this is going. And I definitely hope you're right about them providing a solution for non-mobile users.
I would suggest creating a great app AND keep the desktop version as well :-)
EDIT: I see there was an app add very recently. Will try this out NOW
Still think the mobile only strategy is a very bad idea tho...
Ther thermostat class has been released longer ago and based on this several thermostat devices are already implemented in the apps in the App Store.
@Priknr1 made the Horstmann app based on this class and is quite active in supporting it.
https://forum.athom.com/discussion/comment/48753/#Comment_48753
But not strange that you missed that one... And for now I think the mobile-only strategy sucks too but I'm confident we'll be suprised by Athom and everything will turn out right
If you are not referring to the SRT321, and your device is not recognized, let me know what device you have.
For the SRT321 and HRT4-ZW I have made a how-to on how to add them.
https://forum.athom.com/discussion/comment/42270/#Comment_42270
Tonight i had the chance to get a first look at the internal alpha of the new mobile app on Emile his phone. It's looking very good, still need a lot of UI designing but it was fast and it worked native. Switching zones was easy, searching for devices by name or state was working and from a device i could see all information, insights will be there and you can drill. For example from device -> to app -> to all devices using that app. Music, making flows was not working yet, they focues first on the devices and then they take a new feature and work on that. At the end it's a build ready for release in stable.
I don't know if i'm going to like the new mobile/tablet app when it's released after using the webversion all this time but first i will test it myself before i will judge Athom about this vision.
I also talked with Emile about the desktop, they still havent made a final decision about how / what afther the mobile release and he said there are in the community of react native who are busy with OSX/Windows ports so who knows what will come after the mobile app. Yes at first they focus on mobile but after that, who knows
Edit:
They give the freedom to make your own frontend by the API so you can always proof Athom wrong and do it better
Homey is extremely powerful and beats competitors by far - why are you discarding the input from the people supporting this?
No problem if you priorities the tablet/phone version - but just as a sign of gratiotiousness
Defending the Mobile app, will not get rid of the PC users! and yes I would like to know the pad ahead, as i'm spending more money and time every month to create a home automation solution arround Homey, and it would be nice to know if I can continue this after 2.0
"They give the freedom to make your own frontend by the API so you can always proof Athom wrong and do it better"
Yes if Homey was made for the techies only, but some of us are not at the level to create that type of solution... an to be honest, if you take a feature of a consumer product away after sales, and tell your customers that they could develop that themself sounds plain wrong.
and this is not just a feature like speech, or IR, this is a major design change in how users interact with there system for manny of the current users.
And as mentioned by many before, even if they make a smashing app that works as advertised. there will be a lot of people that stil would like or prefere to use there PC to configure there system, and this will not go away, not even if as hard as you try to convince PC users that they are wrong, or not paitiance or even "Judging"
my 2c
You got your answer in the latest update about the heading of Athom and i give you the information about that it's not definite what's coming after mobile. Just think out of the box instead of already complaining/seeing problems about something you don't know how it works or how it wil be. Live positive
Every company takes turns along the way, for example Spotify who abandons Safari and forces OSX users to use the desktop app or an alternative browser.
And again i end this post with judge and decide for yourself after you have tested the new mobile expierence that will come before 2.0 will be rolled out
Still, I recently testet a z-wave controller from a Norwegian company, who based setup and use only on tablet/phone-apps.
The interface wasn't that bad (the controller was far from reaching Homey, however), but as I sat there, I really felt, how tedious it was to make stuff on a touchscreen in that format - and longed to go back to sitting with a mouse, a screen and a keyboard.
Oh, I really, really hope, that at least Athom will make some kind of emulator making it possible to run the app on a laptop...
yes, it seams that way, and the Borg are here... and yes there are many people who want a better mobile app, as do I, but that does not mean, they would like to abbandon the PC interface..
and yes the current emulators for pc, are crappy, load site programs, add adds and even contain malware, how secure will that be !!?
and examples like spotify no longer supporting Safari, at least they gave alternatives for the same platform..
And you know, the Borg do not listen, they only say resistance is futile..
so I rest my case in hoping that Athom is not the Borg, but understands that what has been written..
I'm fine to use my tablet or mobile for switching on or off a light, talking to Homey etc.
But making complex flows, doing setup, etc etc... NO.
The Homey Desktop app is fine like it is and shouldn't be abandoned. I've said before that I think this would be HUGE mistake...
@lubbertkramer I definitely understand those who want improved mobile support, but I absolutely do not see why it has to be one OR the other, when the current desktop interface works fine and is preferred by a group of people. Why not offer BOTH options, then let the user decide which he wants to use?
There was a discussion on slack last saterday, if you are able have a look there from Saterday the 16th, 6:41pm
It did not make me feel better ..
So I guess "owning a (fairly recent?) smartphone" will soon be added to the installation requirements for Homey?
Also some of the statments made about supporting and not obligated to maintan older versions are premature, and they need to change a lot on the logistic part, every webshop there description has to change way before roll out, and all the packing of the existing Homey's at retail also. Today I picked up a new Homey at retail, just for that reason. Anyway let see what direction this goes and how the rest of the users react when the time is there.
until then just continuing with expanding my home automation with Homey.
I’ve seen people buy new houses, and asked me about some domotica advice. Since this last announcement, I’m hesitant to advice homey.. And that if you would know that I’ve been advocating this device since the kickstarter started.
Somehow they seem a bit ehr... distracted, with their head in the clouds...
I mean, I'm glad Z-Wave is finally working. I saw some nice improvements. But most improvements have come from the community by new apps that added cool functionality. I haven't seen huge improvements from Athom themselves. Voice did work for a while but has gone worse again since the last 2-3 updates or so. Hit and miss again, like before. I was finally happy with it (in English that is!).
So my conclusion: guys and gals at athom... FOCUS!
An app is not going to do it for me (and I am a fulltime app developer! )
I'd love to be able to run some custom firmware on the homey, perhaps just use the hardware in domoticz. Early
I'd love for Athom to opensource their stack, so we can just rollout something that does work for advanced users. Have a feeling it will just turn into a beautiful white paperweight for me..