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What is possible? Should i buy Homey?
Jschuetz
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Hey,
today i am using Home-Assistant, MagicMirror + Hombridge with Hue (Lamps + Motion Sensor), Sonos (4x Play 1), Lifx, Tado and Z-Wave Stick with Z-wave power plugins.
But i plan to buy a homey.
My targets/points:
- Presence Detection with the native App (IOS & Android 6). (Owntracks needs to much power on my devices)
- Z-Wave Motion Sensors & power relais support
- Change the normal Switches with Z-Wave ready Switches in the Floor. ( We have 6 LED Spots and 3 normal Lamps) It is to expensive to change all lamps, so i will change the switches.
- Homebridge would be very nice ( But if there is no app, i will use it only for HUE, Sonos). It's easier and faster to use the official ios control center for homekit devices. Unless widget is supported
- Rules like, if all persons leave the house -> switch all devices off
- German Language, isn't still available now, but when is the official release date?
- Native Apps: Widget Support for fast and easy using? (IOS & Android)
- Magic Mirror rest api?
- TVOS App (ATV4) ?
Thank you very much, would you buy Homey again?
today i am using Home-Assistant, MagicMirror + Hombridge with Hue (Lamps + Motion Sensor), Sonos (4x Play 1), Lifx, Tado and Z-Wave Stick with Z-wave power plugins.
But i plan to buy a homey.
My targets/points:
- Presence Detection with the native App (IOS & Android 6). (Owntracks needs to much power on my devices)
- Z-Wave Motion Sensors & power relais support
- Change the normal Switches with Z-Wave ready Switches in the Floor. ( We have 6 LED Spots and 3 normal Lamps) It is to expensive to change all lamps, so i will change the switches.
- Homebridge would be very nice ( But if there is no app, i will use it only for HUE, Sonos). It's easier and faster to use the official ios control center for homekit devices. Unless widget is supported
- Rules like, if all persons leave the house -> switch all devices off
- German Language, isn't still available now, but when is the official release date?
- Native Apps: Widget Support for fast and easy using? (IOS & Android)
- Magic Mirror rest api?
- TVOS App (ATV4) ?
Thank you very much, would you buy Homey again?
Comments
- German language - no official word yet when this will become available, so it may take a while... I hope you're comfortable with using english instead.
- everything else:
I hope others, with more experience in the specific fields, can answer those. All I can say is, don't count on everything working flawlessly right out of the box. If that is what you expect/need, then it's definitely too early to buy Homey.
- homey have presence detection with the app from homey it self
- z-wave is supported from some companies. check https://apps.athom.com for support of your z-wave devices
- homebridge is currently that i know not supported
- u can make so many rules if you want. i have also a rule if everyone left turn of light an set temperature down.
- German language, i have no idea.
- no widget support current avalable in the homey app
- magic mirror api not support but u can build an app for it
yes i would buy a homey again. it is a open platform where i can develop my own supported apps.Homebridge is something really interesting. I love Siri and would love to have support for a lot of equipment through Homey. Not sure how much will be possible in this area.
In the chat room, someone said that presence detection with android isn't working. Can you submit this?
Since you are using Tado (and I do too) I suggest you use Tado for presence detection. I use Tado in combination with IFTTT and it works like a charm. The Tado app doesn't use much power.
This way the lamps are already on when I arrive (Tado Home Mode) and the Sonos in the livingroom will play as soon as the motion detector sees me (Home Mode + Detection). It switches off whenever Tado goes to Away Mode.
I'm not very fond of the precence detection from the Homey app. It is not that reliable.
1. Works: Tado sees that I'm arriving in 10 minutes and the lights are on and music is playing when I arrive.
2. Not working at this moment (since I typed it out and found the sollution this isn't a big problem): I say goodbye to Homey (a manual flow which means all Hue lights and Sonos off) and I'm only going to a place near to my house. In that case Homey doesn't see I'm arriving (since Tado was never in Away Mode). Now that I'm thinking about that, I can program Homey to just time out for 10 minutes and after movement is noticed and I'm still home (stating Tado never changes status) I can just follow the Arriving Home flow.
Delay is around 3 minutes but this is not a problem since Tado goes to Home mode before you arrive. In case Tado doesn't work or is disconnected I have a manual flow which triggers the same Bitflip as Tado: Home: true/false.
And since Tado gives me a light sensor reading I use Tado to give a second status: dark or light outside.
These two connected give me the following rules
- Away (Home Bitflip: false): Everything off, motion sensor triggers alarm
- Home (Home Bitflip: true):
- Dark outside (Light Bitflip: true): lights on, Sonos on depending on time
- Light outside (Light Bitflip: false): lights off, Sonos on depending on time
I hope this is helpfull for you.
Nonetheless, there are many solutions for this problems, and everyone has to find out what works best for themselves.
You can set the value of any variable via a simple http post command. You can command flows by 'if variable X changed and variable X is Y, then do Z'
Seriously?
Some people want Z-wave devices because of their better accuracy and knowledge of on/off states, some people want KaKu for their cheapness. Everyone has to find out what works best for themselves.
smart presencce has detected us.
Great app! For us.
Ok and it is possible to set this with a authentification request? I will use it over wan!
Which techs/apps are you using? Reading almost only bad stories about the Android presence detection with homey.
after installing i gave the phones a fixed IP-adress
it seems that it won't work that good with an iphone (only confirmed by 1 or 2 persons) here we all use android,
two galaxy s7 and one A3(2016)
Homey is a cutting edge/bleeding edge platform.
If you want a finished and polished product which you plug in and just works, you should find another product.
If you want a lot of flexibility and the power create powerful flows, Homey is for you.
OK, so the Mediamarkt/retail experience isn't ,at least for android, there (yet).
@JaapPelt ;
I thought homey was already "finished" with the 1.0.0 version and retail version.
Realistic you mean.
1.0.0 was brought as stable and that should it be for retail. Or 'm I wrong on that?
Is this a constructive on-topic reply?
What has me (not) owning a Homey to do with this?
I follow most GitHub issues, read Slack and also follow a lot of forum posts. So i think i have a good general idea on Homey status.
On presence detection I said that OOTB it isn't working that good with Android. Some say it is working, but the use other solution with, for example better presence were people need things like a RaspberryPi/Tado/Nest. I think its a bit unfair to say that presence detection is working flawlessly when somebody (bought) a Raspberry/Tado/Nest device which is doing detection for him. The same goes for IR were a lot of people bought a Harmony Hub (because of the lack of good IR support by Homey) and there it would also be unfair to say; IR is working great with Homey and my Harmony.
Its the OOTB feature set that matters now for most of the new people. Not the Geek set were people can buy and install all sorts of extra stuff to overcome the missing advertised features were its been sold with.
In the early days, I had to reconfigure some flows after an update, but is was rare even then. These days, bugs are minor and rare.
Athom is not a huge company like apple of google, but they do focus on quality and user experience.
MHubert said: I don't know why you would imply that I said that Homey was not finished. Taking words out of context does not appear to add to the discussion.
The problem with people stating that Homey is 'instable' is caused by things such as the fact that the Z-wave range can change between Homey updates, or that the interpretation of your speech can differ (not always for the better) between updates. If you're looking for a system that turns on lights on a motion in an appartement, or change your heating with a Klik-aan-klik-uit button, then Homey will be more than stable enough for you.
You said ">>>" and I read it as; People who are looking for a finished product shouldn't by Homey because it isn't finished.
So you cursive text is a bit strange if I look at your first sentence.