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Google Nest + Homey Insights

Henri06522Henri06522 Member
in Questions & Help
Hello Everybody,

It it possible to get more info and history out of a nest with Homey Insights? With the regular Nest Webapp you can not get much info out of the device.

Regards!
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  • TarikFaikTarikFaik Member
    is there already an app for nest?
  • MarcoFMarcoF Member
    https://github.com/athombv/com.nest
  • TarikFaikTarikFaik Member
    How can i install it on my homey
  • MarcoFMarcoF Member
    Download the repo and follow these instructions;
    https://developers.athom.com/library/getting-started
  • TarikFaikTarikFaik Member
    edited February 2016

    I tried that but when i go to athom login it go's to http://localhost:8080 so to my pc and not my homy

    PS C:\Users\Tarik> athom login
    Opening browser at http://localhost:8000
    Welcome, Tarik! You are now logged in on this computer.
  • MarcoFMarcoF Member
    A browser will open, and ask you for your account. When done, you can close this browser window.

    That to me looks ok! 

    Then (i think) you can run de downloaded Nest app with a command like this:

    athom NameOfNestApp --run

  • DaneeDeKruyffDaneeDeKruyff Member

    That is what is supposed to happen.

    Now go to the location off the app and run this command: athom project --run

  • TarikFaikTarikFaik Member
    cant find it on my apps i have some screen shots 


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  • MarcoFMarcoF Member
    See;
    https://athomcommunity.slack.com/archives/developers/p1452597613000067

    If i'm right, then you need to go to the directory of the nest app and then run "athom project --run" and then athom will run in the nest app context.
  • DaneeDeKruyffDaneeDeKruyff Member

    @TarikFaik you have to download the source and save it localy. Then navigate in a cmd session to the folder where you stored it. Then run the command "athom project --run" so the actual text "project", not what you named it.

    BTW, your screenshots are rather large, some people read this forum on phones.

  • TarikFaikTarikFaik Member
    @MarcoF @DaneeDeKruyff  Thanx have it

  • TarikFaikTarikFaik Member
    now i have nest on my homey but it seems not to work


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  • MarcoFMarcoF Member
    The app isn't officially published, so maybe there are some issues with it.... 
  • TarikFaikTarikFaik Member
    @MarcoF  Thanx
  • MarcoFMarcoF Member
    Your welcome?! 
  • MichaelMichael Member
    Henri06522 said:
    It it possible to get more info and history out of a nest with Homey Insights?
    What kind of information?
  • Henri06522Henri06522 Member
    Things like: 

    - When the heater switch on and off?
    - How long does it take to reach temperatures?

    Maybe it changed with gen 3 but the logging of a gen2 is minmal.

    And where does Homey save the logging of Google? Because it is forbidden to save Google Data.


  • mruitermruiter Member
    edited February 2016

    And where does Homey save the logging of Google? Because it is forbidden to save Google Data.


    Like if we should give a shit. Google saves our data, all of our data. Theres no way to forbid them. Not even the EU or the US can stop them.
    Google is one of the last companys you should pay attention to forbid to safe date.

    But is there any date set when the app will be finished so i can connect my Nest
    It mentioned waiting for 3th party. Is this Nest, because if you wait fotr Nest to reply on anything then it will be there when whe say hey grandpa to our over aged homey

    The support desk of nest has a avarage waiting queue of 6 hours every single day because of all the bugs it has. (mainly in the opentherm com of the nest v3)
    I had to push them to the limit a high ranked employer got so angry of all my angry post on every twitter/facebook and other news they posted to get a reply.

  • Henri06522Henri06522 Member
    No indeed, there is no reason to give a shit. All I want to know is; will it be possible in het future to get more data out of Nest. More than with the regular Nest App. 
  • RobinRobin Member
    For now the Nest app doesn't log anything specific to Insights (except for thermostat temperature). What other sorts of information would like to have logged to Insights? By the way, the Nest app just went live on the app store!
  • TarikFaikTarikFaik Member
    Missing away option 
  • RoelCollignonRoelCollignon Member
    @Robin It would be nice to log the time the Nest is on (Energy History).
  • Henri06522Henri06522 Member
    @Robin ;

    For example;
    - When did the heater switch on and off
    - How long does it take before target temperature has been reached
    - 24/7 temperature measurements

  • RobinRobin Member
    TarikFaik said:
    Missing away option 
    Away functionality will be released in the upcoming version! Unfortunately, Nest doesn't allow third parties to change the away status, so read only..

    RoelCollignon said:
    @Robin It would be nice to log the time the Nest is on (Energy History).
    I'm afraid this is something not supported by the Nest API.

    Henri06522 said:
    @Robin ;

    For example;
    - When did the heater switch on and off
    - How long does it take before target temperature has been reached
    - 24/7 temperature measurements

    The Nest API doesn't give any detailed information on when it switches on the heater. How long it takes before target temperature is reached is something you could create in a flow yourself (listening on temperature changed), and is not something that will be implemented in the app itself. By the way, temperature measurements are automatically logged to Insights, this might provide you the information you are looking for.
  • MarcoWijkMarcoWijk Member
    Perhaps a new newsfact. I've read on nu.nl/tech/ today, that Nest is updating it's away/home function to make it more accurate. It's going  to use the iOS and Android location function.  :smile:            
  • PBaan93PBaan93 Member
    Insights of my nest termostat are gone. Had to re add, because of the new version, but now i don't have anny insights of nest. Anyone got the same poblem?
  • Henri06522Henri06522 Member
    Yes, I have the same problem. Insights are gone....insights of Hue are still there..
  • RobinRobin Member
    That is not a problem, but a feature. Well, without kidding, Nest enforces a rule that prohibits us from saving data any longer than 10 days. Therefore we had to leave it out of Insights.
  • Henri06522Henri06522 Member
    Damn....well ty for the quick reply. And thank you for this feature add! ;)
  • PBaan93PBaan93 Member
    hmmm... don't like that rule.
    So with the trigger card "temperature has changed", temp token in combination with the bether logic app i can do this myselve :wink:  ?

    Noticed humidity is added, but not the trigger card "humidity has changed", is this "feature" on its way? :smile: 
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