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IR range limitations of Homey: take a Wireless Infrared Extender
MG11
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Good morning!
I have some great experience to share with you.
If you are interested in using Homey to control a lot of IR devices - this is the best solution for me so far:
EBODE PM10C Wireless Infrared Extender: http://www.ebodeelectronics.eu/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=304]&Itemid=3&lang=en
I tested this IR extender today and I'm pretty excited.
The main advantage: the IR signals from Homey are being converted to 433MHz signals, transmitted for over 30 meters trough the floors and walls and converted back to IR at the receiver point! And it works very very well.
My transmitter ("pyramid", half size of Homey) stands just next to Homey and is extending the IR signal across the house to the receiver "pyramids" in different rooms. I have approx. 3 walls and 18 meters between my Homey (living room) and the device I'd like to control in the bedroom (air purifier). And it works! Homey can now control all IR devices in my bedroom! Great!
This way you can place 1 IR transmitter next to Homey and many IR receivers in different rooms and enjoy the full Homey control over all of your IR devices at home.
I have some great experience to share with you.
If you are interested in using Homey to control a lot of IR devices - this is the best solution for me so far:
EBODE PM10C Wireless Infrared Extender: http://www.ebodeelectronics.eu/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=304]&Itemid=3&lang=en
I tested this IR extender today and I'm pretty excited.
The main advantage: the IR signals from Homey are being converted to 433MHz signals, transmitted for over 30 meters trough the floors and walls and converted back to IR at the receiver point! And it works very very well.
My transmitter ("pyramid", half size of Homey) stands just next to Homey and is extending the IR signal across the house to the receiver "pyramids" in different rooms. I have approx. 3 walls and 18 meters between my Homey (living room) and the device I'd like to control in the bedroom (air purifier). And it works! Homey can now control all IR devices in my bedroom! Great!
This way you can place 1 IR transmitter next to Homey and many IR receivers in different rooms and enjoy the full Homey control over all of your IR devices at home.
Comments
I bought homey to get rid of all the hubs.
Besides, isn't the Homey itself a hub as well? Right now, the Harmony hub is the one home automation device I am most satisfied with...
Homey is a controller.
HUE bridge is also a controller for the lights, but its also a bridge/hub between Homey and the lights.
About 2 years ago I thought of buying a RFXCom or homewizard so I could control and receive (weather station info from neighbours ) more 433 stuff. But didn't do that because i didn't wanted another hub.
+10 to Harmony, but Homey should do, based on kickstart info/video's/etc , the same.
I totaly agree with @marcof here, homey is supposed to be the hub that replaces all others, so there should not be the need for IR range extenders/hub (unless we're trying to control equipment in other rooms)
What bothers me most is the lack of information we get from Athom on this subject, but then again that's something we're used to I guess.
Why is this thread exploding with raging people? @MG11 never said to use this to reach your TV on the standard 3 meters away...
Wifi:
https://www.robbshop.nl/over-z-wave/z-wave-projecten/itach-infrarood-afstandsbedieningen-aansturen-vanuit-z-wave-controller
Z-Wave:
https://www.betaalbare-domotica.nl/remotec-z-wave-naar-airco-ir-extender.html
http://www.gearbest.com/living-appliances/pp_357329.html
http://www.banggood.com/Broadlink-Black-Bean-Smart-Home-Wifi-Remote-IR-Controller-Universal-Appliances-Smart-Control-p-1049494.html
I completely agree that there is a need for better IR support, and the silence from Athom is puzzling,
Sure, IR is an old technology, but since IR is still the most used technology for controlling TV's, airco's, fireplaces and a whole range of other (older) appliances I think it is not unfair to request, or at least inquire about, some kind of support for IR signals to be sent (and preferably also received) by Homey to\from equipment in other rooms and\or cabinets where Homeys IR signal can not be received.
A quick search I did some time ago reveals several options to send IR signals with an independent device using LAN\WIFI or BT:
IRTrans LAN\WIFI (http://www.irtrans.de/en/shop/lan.php)
LAN\WIFI <-> IR controller (SEND & RECEIVE). Allows additional external IR PowerLEDs to be connected and controlled separately from the internal IR LED.
B&O IR (different TX frequency) control optional.
IRKit (http://getirkit.com/en/, https://international.switch-science.com/catalog/1644/)
WIFI -> IR controller (SEND only). Open source solution based on Arduino. Apps available for iOS and Android, JavaScript SDK available.
Klikr
Bluetooth -> IR controller (SEND only).
DIY Arduino (http://www.stavros.io/posts/control-rf-devices-with-arduino/)
LAN -> IR (SEND only). Completely Open Source and completely DIY.
IRDroid (http://www.irdroid.com/irdroid-wifi-version-3-0/)
WIFI <-> IR (SEND & RECEIVE). iOS & Android App support. Open Source software available.
BroadLink (http://www.dx.com/p/broadlink-rm1-universal-wi-fi-ir-remote-control-for-cell-phone-infrared-device-black-240127)
WIFI -> IR (SEND only). Unknown Chinese manufacturer so quality is anyone's guess. No info on software.
GlobalCache WF2IR (http://www.globalcache.com/products/itach/wf2irspecs/)
WIFI -> IR (SEND only).
The benefit of having an IR Extender that is able to Receive as well as Transmit is obviously that IR-signals that are sent from your IR TV remote in your bedroom are also sent to the device controlling the IR Extender (i.e. Homey). So, using the IR remote in your bedroom you could trigger a flow in Homey (using a button you don't normally use).
Personally, I'd dismiss Klikr because of the Bluetooth protocol used and because it is a SEND-only device. A LAN\WIFI option is much more versatile and stable. I'm currently using 2 IRTrans modules which work perfectly (powerfull IR signal, reliable and stable but pricey), but IRDroid is a much cheaper alternative with open source software to boot. I've also looked into briefly into making a Homey App for IRTrans but one obstacle is that support from the manufacturer is not exactly what you'd call enthousiastic..
Question for @Athom : will Homey support any of the devices mentioned by me or others to allow extended IR control of\by Homey? If so, what is the timeframe we are looking at?
Thanks for your time and answer, keep up the great work!
DenW
And I must say for me it is working perfectly
Route = homey (livingroom) --> logitech (cabinet) --> logitech blaster (cabinet) --> ebode sender (cabinet) --> ebode receiver (livingroom) --> curtain (livingroom)
What I (and others) are suggesting is that Homey should support 1 or more IR devices that allow you to control IR devices in cabinets or other rooms. And preferably also lets you trigger Homey Flows with IR from other rooms.
That is an issue Athom has been silent about from the beginning, hence my remark.
And I'm not saying Athom should not be putting priorities on other things right now. I am saying Athom should have a clear vision of how to support the most used consumer control technology in its Home Automation Controller. And they should communicate it so prospective users know what or what not to expect.
DenW
I like to report that, after i updated to 1.5.4. , my IR sending for Homey seems to be improved.
First the signal did not reaged the the tv, now it mostly does. distance about 6 meters.
The KPN remote combines two functions, steering the KPN ITV box and also your TV .
The KPN remote supports a wide range of TVs (e.g. for my Sony: #307)!
Perhaps Athom/Homey can copy/duplicate/etc the IR functionality of the KPN remote, into the Homey?!
I have a spare one.
@ DenW, Thanks for sharing this info, very helpfull.
I have installed the samsung app for this.
However, copie of a other ir signal does not work for me.
( vacuumcleaner ir )