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MarcoFMarcoF Member
edited April 2016 in Questions & Help


My findings;
Working:
  • Zwave: Fibaro 2 x 1,5kW relay V2.2 working
  • 433: ELRO remote is working 
  • API: HUE
  • NFC: Dutch OV-Chipcard is detected and Homey's "parrot" flow says card-code


Not working (properly)
  • Zwave: Fibaro FGK001 "not working" because of Homey sees it as a basic device so no device specific features/sensor
  • API NetAtmo: Missing 4 sensors; Outdoor, Wind, 2 x extra indoor
  • ChromeCast app doesn't recognizes our Sony AndroidTV
  • IR: Samsung remote BN59-00706A
  • IR: Samsung remote MF59-00291A
  • IR: LG remote AKB72975301
  • IR: Sony remote RMT-TX100D
  • IR: Onkyo RC-807D



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Comments

  • thuijbersthuijbers Member
    Nice! Good luck
  • Fire69Fire69 Member
    Great!  Hope you have some fun with it!  B)
  • PandaPanda Member
    Nice, good to see you still got one instead of waiting for a MM release.
  • mbalik79mbalik79 Member
    Nice!  Have fun with the game  ;)
  • MarcoFMarcoF Member
    Great MP offer nearby....  Couldn't resist to let that one go by....

  • RocodamelsheRocodamelshe Member
    edited April 2016
    Good good, have fun with it.
    Also have some fun with deleting some of ur posts, like this1.
    Where is ur credibility when u say something tomorrow?
  • ARJARJ Member
     <3 Gaming! Good Luck! We're waiting to see more posts of @MarcoF this night.
  • MarcoFMarcoF Member
    edited April 2016
    Homey is running for 3 hours now and the USB current/voltage meter is showing;
    • 5.35V
    • 2850mAh
    Give; 5.35V * 0.2850mAh = 15,247W usage over 3 hours, which is 5,082Wh for homey running standard with LED-ring on rainbow.

    I hoped for a bit less and more like a Rpi (3-4Wh) :smile: 

    [edit] small correction, made a small mess.....



  • bvdbosbvdbos Member
    If you turn off the led-ring it consumes 3-5 W, a lot of led's is a lot of energy...
  • TedTolboomTedTolboom Member
    edited April 2016
    @MarcoF Enjoy your time with Homey... Looking forward to your experiences

    The power consumption is for Homey (running idle) with LED-ring at 100%?
    Could you measure the power consumption with the LED-ring at 10% (for me 100% is too bright)?
  • MarcoFMarcoF Member
    edited April 2016
    @MarcoF Enjoy your time with Homey... Looking forward to your experiences

    The power consumption is for Homey (running idle) with LED-ring at 100%?
    Could you measure the power consumption with the LED-ring at 10% (for me 100% is too bright)?
    Will try 10% LED ring tonight for 7-8 hours(depending on howlate my wife kick me to bed :naughty: ) and report the results tomorrow morning.

    [edit]
    Just tried to change the LED-ring to 1% (i'm running 0.8.29) so thats 10% (if 'm right) and current drops from 0.9-1.0Ah to 0.45-0.55 Ah so that about 50% lower, but voltage raised from 5.35V to 5.40V

    So from:
    5.35V * 0.95A = 5.13W
    To:
    5.40V * 0.50A = 2.70W

    So that's a significantly drop.
  • DaneeDeKruyffDaneeDeKruyff Member
    OMG @marcof you sell out!  >:)
  • MarcoFMarcoF Member
    @DaneeDeKruyff doing my stinking best :mrgreen: 

    Homey just ran 60min with LED-ring on 1% (don't know if its really 1 or 10%);
    5.35V * 0.527mAh = 2.82Wh

    That's really nasty good! :love: 


  • ReemsterReemster Member
    Conclusion, most of the stuff isn't working yet  :D
  • bvdbosbvdbos Member
    MarcoF said:
    @DaneeDeKruyff doing my stinking best :mrgreen: 

    Homey just ran 60min with LED-ring on 1% (don't know if its really 1 or 10%);
    5.35V * 0.527mAh = 2.82Wh

    That's really nasty good! :love: 


    You mix up things 5,25 V * 0,527 Ampere (or 527 mA) = 2,766 W (=VA) * 1 hr = 2,766 Wh
    Just nitpicking  :)
  • MarcoFMarcoF Member
    Hmmm just did a Google for "mah to wh calculator" and found several examples that "support" my calculation. My USB meter counts the consumed Amps and not only display the actual flowing current. 

    Homey will now run 7hours 
  • 2mv2mv Member
    Finally, you put your money where you're mouth is. So you're now in the same boat like the rest of us?
    @Rocodamelshe: he is into a fair bit of push pull sort of <3 -relationship with homey 
  • bvdbosbvdbos Member
    edited April 2016
    MarcoF said:
    Hmmm just did a Google for "mah to wh calculator" and found several examples that "support" my calculation. My USB meter counts the consumed Amps and not only display the actual flowing current. 

    It is possible your meter counts mAh (I guess to make comparisons to batteries easier). If that's the case your last calculation is correct if you measured for exactly one hour as you stated... but then
    5.35V * 0.2850mAh = 15,247W usage over 3 hours, which is 5,082Wh
    should be:
    5.35V * 2850mAh = 15,247Wh usage over 3 hours, which is 5,082W
    Power (in Watt = voltage x current) x time = total energy used...
  • bvdbosbvdbos Member
    This  also means Homey can run for a couple of hours on some batteries as a UPS...
  • Fire69Fire69 Member
    This  also means Homey can run for a couple of hours on some batteries as a UPS...
       https://forum.athom.com/discussion/comment/11034/#Comment_11034

     ;) 
  • MarcoFMarcoF Member
    Oops your right I forgot the "h" and got wrong on the 1000 "scale".

    But the result is the same :smile: 

    Here a pic of the meter running Homey(0.8.29, with high Top values) for about 7 hours "idle";


    So lets try again;
    (5.33 * (3584/1000)/(7*60+9)*60)=2.67Wh average after 7 hours and 9 minutes.

    And @Fire69 also great measuring! :smile: 
  • DaneeDeKruyffDaneeDeKruyff Member
    Question though, you measure on the USB side of the power supply, am I right? Shouldn't you measure on the outlet? I have no idea how much power is lost in the power supply, but can imagine it's not zero.

    Btw, I'll let you know a little bit later how I accepted your 'Game on!'  B)
  • Fire69Fire69 Member
    MarcoF said:

    Here a pic of the meter running Homey(0.8.29, with high Top values) for about 7 hours "idle";


    Are you going to upgrade to .30?
    Power consumption should go down a little thanks to the lower load I suppose... 
  • MarcoFMarcoF Member
    edited April 2016
    You definitely have a point! 
    Most power supply's are, by law, with 80 - 90% highly energie efficient!

    So take the worst case on the idle measurements;
    2.67Wh / 0.80 = 3.34Wh at the socket

    A more realistic case (I hope) is that the Power Supply is 90%+ efficient;
    2.67Wh / 0.90 = 2.96Wh at the socket

  • bvdbosbvdbos Member
    Those are about the results I measure (before the adapter)...
  • MarcoFMarcoF Member
    edited April 2016
    @Fire69;
    For now I decided to not upgrade/switch to Experimental.
    Mostly because of the App/GC problems and I just want to play/test Homey.

    So if loadlevels drop, then power usage will also drop and I think/hope for about 10-20%, above will be;
    80% efficient powersupply and 10% drop because of less CPU load;
    (2.67Wh / 0.80) * 0.90 = 3.01Wh 

    90% efficient powersupply and 20% drop because of less CPU load;
    (2.67Wh / 0.90) * 0.80 = 2.37Wh 


    After 10 hours uptime;

    • Homey is responsive, 
    • all Zwave devices are responding, 
    • HUE works, 
    • 433 not able to test from work
    • Load Levels drop 20%, but still very high and known issue of 0.8.29;
      last evening: 1.2-1.3
      Now: 0.966796875,1.0107421875,1.03173828125

  • Fire69Fire69 Member
    MarcoF said:
    @Fire69;

    GC problems
    • Now: 0.966796875,1.0107421875,1.03173828125
    What's GC? :)

    Actually, those loads aren't all that high.  I averaged at about 1.5-1.8 all the time :)
  • MartijnDeRhoterMartijnDeRhoter Member
    I'm guessing Garbage Collection.
  • MarcoFMarcoF Member
    GC = Garbage Collection

    My Homey is currently doing almost nothing. 
    • 4 Zwave device, 
    • some API based Apps, 
    • 4 flows meanly based on presence (so i guess the are idle until the app signals a Phone is outside the fence)
    • Voice not trained (Actually i didn't try to test Voice at all)
    After some playing around Load levels are now;
    [1.33447265625,0.994140625,0.98486328125]

    So idle the Load Levels are "pretty" low and while playing around the quick go up.
  • BumblezBumblez Member
    edited April 2016
    MarcoF said:

    • Voice not trained (Actually i didn't try to test Voice at all)
    I'm on .30 at the moment, didn't train voice either. Did quite a few tests, and at its default settings, Homey responds very well to both me and my wife (even when the TV is on; no false positives yet). I have a feeling this could only get worse if I do the training... so I recommend to test it first, before you do any training.
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