Improving presence?

Exile82

I have been searching the forum to find a better presence solution. To be honest, the existing ones (stock and smart presence) does not cut it, by far. I often get "You came home" after being home for several hours, despite that I have enabled no sleep on my Samsung S7s wifi.

Are there any other alternatives or workaround to improve presence accuracy?
It would be nice to have the Homey also checking for response of bluetooth devices. Well, maybe not a great idea, but the current solution is not really good enough to have presence as a trigger.

lubbertkramer

There are multiple topics already on the forum about presence, maybe you can find your information there -> https://forum.athom.com/search?q=presence

Exile82

lubbertkramer said:

There are multiple topics already on the forum about presence, maybe you can find your information there -> https://forum.athom.com/search?q=presence

Thanks! I tried that search, didn't find any good solutions for me, so I just wanted to check if there are any other solutions, not described in the forum.

Maybe I need to reconsider having presence as a trigger. It works fairly okay for me (using an Android Phone). But for my wife's Iphone 7, it is really useless. 

lubbertkramer

When you use the search you will find there are other apps like smart presence, owntracks, mqtt etc that could make presence detection better, did you try those apps because those should better work on iOS (android also :P )? 

keverjeroen

Did you find my topic about combining stuf for a great occupancy detection?  https://forum.athom.com/discussion/2425/occupancy-presence-detection-scoring

It is so simple and it works so good. My homey knows if there is 100% certain nobody in the house, that here is probably someone in the house or that there is 100% certein somebody in the house. Even if no one is carrying a registered phone, like the house keeping or the kid.

p.s. presence is not the same as occupancy: http://dreamgreenhouse.com/projects/2013/presence/index.php

Exile82

lubbertkramer said:

When you use the search you will find there are other apps like smart presence, owntracks, mqtt etc that could make presence detection better, did you try those apps because those should better work on iOS (android also :P )? 

Yes, I have noticed that there are some more applications. As I wrote first, I have tried the stock functionality and the smart presence. They perform different on different tasks, but no one is good enough to use as triggers. The other once are a bit more complex, MQTT is not really my cup of tea. I use IFTTT for other things, but my wife doesn't.

I don't want to come out as ungrateful or greedy, but prior to Homey I used like 6-7 different services to automate things. The idea with the Homey was to get rid of these and only use one service (Homey). That is why I don't really want to introduce more services, I set my hopes to different Homey-apps that maybe can fill that space.

Exile82

keverjeroen said:

Did you find my topic about combining stuf for a great occupancy detection?  https://forum.athom.com/discussion/2425/occupancy-presence-detection-scoring

It is so simple and it works so good. My homey knows if there is 100% certain nobody in the house, that here is probably someone in the house or that there is 100% certein somebody in the house. Even if no one is carrying a registered phone, like the house keeping or the kid.

p.s. presence is not the same as occupancy: http://dreamgreenhouse.com/projects/2013/presence/index.php

Thanks! I will have a look on that!