App request: Horstmann HRT4-ZW and ASR-ZW

Yannick

In order to get rid of my Vera Light I would love to have support for these 2 thermostat devices. ASR-ZW would probably work out of the box as it is pretty much an on-off device but the HRT4-ZW is used to set the temperature and I don't think that is supported with the standard z-wave driver right?
User guide.pdf

Priknr1

+1

DenW

Yannick said:

In order to get rid of my Vera Light I would love to have support for these 2 thermostat devices. ASR-ZW would probably work out of the box as it is pretty much an on-off device but the HRT4-ZW is used to set the temperature and I don't think that is supported with the standard z-wave driver right?
User guide.pdf

+1 here too.. 

Any App developer willing to take this on as a pet project? 

Thanks!
DenW

PimBliek

+1 for this one! This is the one major thing that blocks me from switching off my Vera3...!

DenW

@caseda ;
Since you did a marvelous job with the TKB Home app, partly on my request, can I interest you in taking this one on as well?

Fully understand if you are not interested, but I know you have experience with thermostats. Maybe this would be an easy one for you..

Thanks!
DenW

Priknr1

Is reading out and setting the temperature already in the Z-Wave drivers?  
I read 2 months ago it wasn't in the drivers yet. 

The app can only be build when the drivers supports these functions. 

Yannick

Looks like there is a target_temperature capability in the Danfoss app so I guess it should be possible.

caseda

setting temperature was already possible, even 2 months ago, we only didn't know how  
there are 2 apps using it now, danfoss, and eurotronic (my own creation)
eurotronic still using an early adopt, still busy creating updated version.

@DenW
i would like to do it, but not now, little too busy for it

Erwin1

+1

Priknr1

Great. If you haven't by then, I will sure have a look at it at after christmas. 

Erwin1

@priknr1 and @caseda

Lets make it a contest Who can build the first working app for these devices...

That would be cool, or in this context HOT

I have these devices now for some time and they are just collecting dust at the moment. It would be great if I can start using them!

Priknr1

I started writing the app. But I hope I have time this week to actually test it at home on my Thermostat.

Priknr1

I think I am almost finished with the app. But testing it might bring a lot of problems.

I remember it being a b!tch to add in Homeseer (my previous/current domotica)
So below is a  guide on adding it and having it to work properly.

Boiler unit is the device you connect to the boiler
Thermostat is the device that would be in your living room

1Power up the boiler unit. If the network light is blinking (i.e. no network) then skip steps 2-4.
2) Put the thermostat into installer mode (dip switch 1 on).
3) Turn the dial to ‘P’ and then double-click the dial to get ‘PP’
4) Turn the dial to ‘E’ and click to make the ‘E’ blink. The network light on the boiler control unit should now be blinking.
5) Now take the batteries out of the thermostat to ensure it doesn’t interfere with the next steps.
6) Click "add device" in homey and select "Z-wave" under "Homey"
7) Press the Network button on the boiler unit. The network light should be lit. Homey has now added the boiler unit.
8) Put the batteries back into the thermostat.
9) Make sure the thermostat is still in installer mode (dip switch 1 On)
10) Turn the dial to ‘L’
11) Click "add device" in homey and select "Z-wave" under "Homey")
12) Click the dial.
13) Homey has now added the thermostat.
14) Now turn the dial on the thermostat to ‘Li’ and click to make the ‘Li’ blink. This basically keeps the thermostat awake for a minute so you can configure it in Homey.
15) Go to the Device > Configure the thermostat: Set the wake-up time between 4 hours and 5mins. I picked 5 minutes , since I power the thermostat with an adapter. Otherwise batteries could drain fast
16) Also, set parameter 1 to a value between 128 and 255. This turns on the temperature sensor in the thermostat so the room temperature can be reported to HomeSeer.
17) On the thermostat turn the dial to ‘A’, and click it to make ‘A’ blink.
18) Press the network button on the boiler control unit (for longer than 1 second).
19) ‘P’ should be displayed on the thermostat.
20) Take the thermostat out of installer mode (dip switch 1 to off)
21) Remove and replace the batteries in the thermostat (not entirely sure this is necessary but I wanted to check it had stored the settings and come out of installer mode properly).
22) Done!

DenW

Nice work, @Priknr1  ! Thanks a lot!
Did you already release the app into the app store? Is it pending approval?

Priknr1

No, I have to check if things are working when I am at home. So dont count on it for at least a few days.
Also, I have no idea how to get it in the store yet :P 
So it might be reviewed by Athom or something, which might also take days????

DenW

Afraid I can't help you there.. not an app developer myself so no idea how you do this. But i'm sure the nice folks at Athom will help you out here.
Yes, I think they review every app and indeed it does take a few days after your submitting it for it to be released into the wild.. 

Erwin1

Nice work Priknr1! If and when you've got a running version of the app, I would love to receive a copy! 

Priknr1

I had a quick look at things at home, but nothing worked :S  I added both devices, and both where recognized and added,  but in the Devices list, the Thermostat just kept loading, nog showing any info.
So back to the drawing board. Though I dont know when that will be.
Right now I am kinda busy both with work and in private.

Erwin1

@Priknr1
Too bad the result was disappointing. But very cool that you are busy with it. Take your time and keep us posted! Good luck.

Erwin1

@Priknr1
Curious to know if you have made any progress. 

spamenigma

Also interested in this, Even if to start with simply to allow on/off control of the ASR-ZW from homey. That did work last year as a basic device but since recent updates that hasn't worked for me for a few months, slightly frustrating as its now winter

Priknr1

@Erwin1
Haven't got to it. Sorry. Right now we are very busy with something more important 
http://www.bd.nl/regio/boxtel-schijndel-e-o/sint-michielsgestel/stel-uit-berlicum-zoekt-eiceldonor-de-opties-binnen-eigen-kring-zijn-op-1.6832388

But I will do my best to make some time for it asap.

@spamenigma
The boiler control unit is now defined as thermostat in the z-wave driver. A thermostat does not have the OnOff ability, that is probably why it doesnt work anymore. So in this case the driver was improved, but functionality got less for you.
On the bright side, I think when I tested I was able to do this, So I might be able to put up a first version soon, in which you are able to control the boiler unit (ASR-ZW)

DenW

@Priknr1
Indeed more important. I sincerely hope you will both find a donor soon!
I can't find the facebook link in the article and I don't think anyone will object to you posting it here or in the off-topic section, should you want to. 

As for the app (and if you find the time): i'm not a developer but i wouldn't it be easier to have two separate apps for the time being? So one for the thermostat and one for the boiler switch. 2 smaller projects instead of 1 larger one should simplify development and make troubleshooting easier. You can always merge them later..
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PimBliek

@Priknr1
Is the code available on Github so we can check it out and maybe try it out? Or maybe improve it?  
I'm really hoping to migrate my Thermostat setup to Homey too so I can say bye-bye to my Vera.

Yannick

PimBliek said:

@Priknr1
Is the code available on Github so we can check it out and maybe try it out? Or maybe improve it?  
I'm really hoping to migrate my Thermostat setup to Homey too so I can say bye-bye to my Vera.

In the meantime I've linked the thermostat through HTTP requests and a Bitflip device to Homey. Let me know if you need help with that. Doesn't eliminate your Vera but allows you to include it in flows.

Priknr1

I have some days off for Carnaval, so if I am in any state that allows me to think, I will have a look at it tuesday.

spamenigma

awesome, any solution is a good one at this point

Priknr1

I am getting somewhere!

So far I got working:
- The boiler contol unit to work from both the Thermostat and homey (switching it on / off)
- The battery status from the Thermostat
- The actual temperature from the Thermostat

Not working:
- Status changed of the boiler unit  (so not visible in Homey, when turned on/ off by thermostat
- Thermostat setpoint changed by homey
- Actual thermostat setpoint

But working on it.


When I get home today I hope to make some progress, and after that, I will  make a pull request for a first version to athom. Have to find out where and how that works, since this is the first app I built myself.

Priknr1

No luck on improving functionality so far,  did not spend too much time on it after the last update on here.

I did submit the app to athom. So in a couple of days it must be in the appstore.

@PimBliek  
please have a look and see what you can improve
I am not exactly a pro at programming in js. I am a PLC programmer myself, so this is definately not my expertise.
Do you have the thermostat yourself?

@caseda
any chance you could contribute?

spamenigma

Thanks for what you've done so far!! Looking forward to testing the app, some functionality is better than none

If anyone gets the status working I'm sorted

Yannick

Priknr1 said:

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I did submit the app to athom. So in a couple of days it must be in the appstore.
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Any progress on getting it approved to the appstore? Or maybe a Github repo we could check?