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Window/door sensors only used for triggers?

JeroenvanoJeroenvano Member
edited July 2016 in Questions & Help

Hi all,

I wanted to create a flow when it starts raining and some of the windows are still open

Flow scenario: Have homey say something when it starts raining (trigger) and the windows are still open at the attic + send a push message.

Now it seems that most door/window sensors can be used as triggers but do not support the “AND” part in the flow.

I am using 2 Sensative strips (zwave) at the windows that only allow to be used as triggers and do not support the “AND” column in the flow e.g. “contact alarm is on/off” (window/door is open/closed).

@RamonBaas same for the Powermax window/door sensors, these only support to be used as triggers. Also the movement sensors only allow to be used as a trigger and do not support the “AND” column e.g. “movement was detected”.

I was able to make a workaround but it is not the correct trigger as “starting to rain” (only once triggered) would be the correct trigger to use. In the workaround I had to make a “time pause” for homey not constantly repeating. As in below flow the window keeps triggering until it is closed or it stops raining. The countdown timer is creating a pause.


QUESTION: Is this device or technology depended or is it a general homey setting to have this enabled?

For example my KAKU movement sensors does support “movement was detected” in the AND column.  

Comments

  • I dont think your flow works.

    You better make a 3 flows.

    1
    Contact gaat aan   THEN (logic card) zolderraam rechts open

    2
    Contact gaat uit   THEN (logic card) zolderraam rechts dicht

    3
    Als het binnen 15 minuten gaat regenen  AND (logic card) zolderraam rechts open THEN Send Push and Say
  • jovinkjovink Member
    It would be great if you can ask homey of there are any windows open. 
  • Thanks @0burner0 ;for your advise for plan-B, I will correct and create 3 flows.

    But still my opinion is that this should work with one simple flow if homey wants to have more non-geeks as customers. 

    1Flow:
    Trigger: It starts raining (buienradar)
    AND: window/door is open or contact alarm is active
    Then: say something + push message

  • jovink said:
    It would be great if you can ask homey of there are any windows open. 
    Create the 3 flows and create 2 more.

    If: Oke homey is some thing open AND (logic card) zolderraam rechts open THEN say: Yes het zolderraam is open.


    If: Oke homey is some thing open AND (logic card) zolderraam rechts dicht THEN say: No nothing.
  • jovinkjovink Member
    Thnx @0burner0 I'll try that 
  • Thanks @0burner0 ;for your advise for plan-B, I will correct and create 3 flows.

    But still my opinion is that this should work with one simple flow if homey wants to have more non-geeks as customers. 

    1Flow:
    Trigger: It starts raining (buienradar)
    AND: window/door is open or contact alarm is active
    Then: say something + push message

    Agreed. Big chance this will come either with better Zwave or with better flow functionality (both coming in the next month I believe).
  • Agreed @KoenMartens ;

    I am not against more advanced flows using logic cards but the simpler the better as it would help adoption into a wider potential consumer market.

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