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Anyone selling a Homey? I cant wait longer..
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I offer €299
No idea what to think about that...
Also i want to see/feel/check the second hand homey before i buy it and Best is way to far for me.
And what do you win? You get to play around with Homey a few weeks sooner, and you get a more buggy version in which several things do not work well yet.
Is that really worth it?
Seriously?
- its my money
- Emile told us the have enough money.
- I can take my money, but the took my money (free loan on my risk)
- less risk on loosing my money
And maybe you should not speak to the buyer, but to the seller(recently there was a Homey on MP with a asking price of €450 and i got an email from him "€400, want anders dan blijft hij staan" ). Most seller make profit on the sell and on the other hand "steal" money from Athom. Most buyers will be non-backers and won't take/steal money from Athom.@DaneeDeKruyff;
What do you mean?
And I can understand if you're tired of waiting, you no longer want a Homey, you don't want to invest in a Homey anymore and you want your money back. But clearly that's not the case... you still want to buy a Homey, you just don't want to pay Athom for it (and you no longer have the patience to wait for the one from Athom, even though you yourself made it clear in another thread that you realize very well that it won't be fully functional in your home for at least a few more months...).
And are you seriously afraid that Athom won't deliver and that you will lose your money? (imho that would only happen if they should go bankrupt, which Emile said wasn't about to happen, and even if it did... then that Homey that you purchase on marktplaats will be as good as useless as well...)
And I can't stop people from selling their Homey, or people who haven't backed Athom and haven't pre-ordered a Homey (ie those who know nothing about the current state), to purchase one on marktplaats. And you're right, in those cases, Athom isn't losing money right away (maybe in the long run, if that person would have bought one from eg Mediamarkt).
I also can't stop you from doing the same... I can only ask you to think twice before you do, as I absolutely believe you are making a mistake. Because in my eyes, cancelling a pre-order and then purchasing a Homey on marktplaats, is just a sign of weakness. Would it really be such a bad decision to just wait a few more months?
First of all i buy a lot second hand products and in most cases this is a big win/win/win situation.
- it saves me money that i can spend on other things i think are important
- it save a lot of raw materials and so the environment
- by buying a secondhand device I give the device a second chance and that shows faith in the producing company is making a high quality long lasting product.
I think its a very hard and bold thing to say that somebody is stealing from a company by buying a secondhand unit. In the past there were lawsuits about selling secondhand games where (i believe it was EA) game developers thought the could ask money for secondhand game licenses and the game developers lost these cases.It was Valve:
http://tweakers.net/nieuws/87015/valve-voor-duitse-rechter-vanwege-tegenhouden-tweedehandsverkoop.html
22 months ago i lent athom €199 and thanks to the ECB and ING that didn't cost me that much interest.
But on the other side the average interest over 22 month is around 1%; (((199/100)*1)/24)*22=€1,82 money i did loos.
I also lost 8,5% kickstart fee that i didn't got back from Athom (I think its fair) which is about €17,=
So in total I "lost" €18,82 on my loan to Athom and it didn't cost Athom one cent.
Also my homey is still on the Athom shelf and the now will sell it for the retail price and make "€100 more profit" on it.
I also said; Money isn't important.
There are more important thing in life such as health, the environment, trust, keeping promises, friends, helping each other, etc.
I still want a Homey and in some way I don't have faith in the project (duck under desk) and also i'm tiered of waiting on the next delay message. If I see a Homey on the internet, then i buy it and i will see where the development stands. But for now I(!) think the risk of waiting and not knowing what i can expect when is to big. If i buy a secondhand unit then i known exactly what i get and when i get it and thats the same for a Retail unit (Maybe i even wait for Homey V2).
You are right that wen the go bankrupt, eventually the server will go down and Homey is "useless".
But on the other hand there are some smart techies here that will make it work again.
For example about a year ago the Solar Inverter company Enecsys got bankrupt and the users couldn't access there(!) solar data anymore. All gateways send there data to Enecsys servers and the users couldn't see what there solarpanels were doing. But some some smart technies on GoT of Tnet got around the "encryption" and now users can access their data local without the need of Enecsys servers.
And you can't stop me, and probably no one else, of buying a secondhand unit
I seriously hope that Athom can pull this of and Homey get to Retail very soon, but seeing the bugs and not hearing any love stories.......
Less = More, More = Less
and
"We from the Toilet Duck"
Like his Homey?
Sounds like in your head you've justified why it would be okay to still purchase a Homey, but not from Athom. As I already said in my previous reply... I can't stop you, I can only ask you to reconsider... and apparently the latter is pointless as well. It's a pity that a few more months makes that big of a difference in your head... especially as you will have to wait that long anyway, before Homey's software is in a more useable state.
But given your conviction, any further replies from me would be pointless. So the best I can hope for, is that my previous replies will make someone else reconsider...
Who made profit and received money for that particular unit?
Athom is only loosing money if nobody buys a new homey.....
If i buy a Homey, it still is a Athom product..... or is there another company that make/sell Homeys?
So whats the difference to buy a secondhand Homey or a new Homey?
Even though a lot doesn't work perfect yet, it is still an awesome product.
How about we don't ruin this topic any further?
Lets discus that when all Backers and Pre-order got there Homey
When I buy Ian new retail homey, it totally cost me €317 which is €18 more then a pre-order and €78 more then an geek pledge. So it's not a very big number and certainly not if I look at all my domotica (related) stuff in our home.
Most important: we are healthy
The waiting is not the issue.... check my list in my previous post (and i hope to reach 80+, so i still have 46 year to go
@jorden
Talking about money
We should have a mod to clean up all these topics......i used to read here daily, now weekly..maybe go to two weekly.
Pick the topics you like and use Mark All Viewed to clear the list for the rest you don't want to follow.
And yes i found the viewed all button already weeks ago. But all the above is just the tone of this forum the last two months, and I find this a pity...that's all. Furthermore, I'm a happy pre order who will wait until its Homey is ready for me
You are discussing the buying of a homey from a reseller who has nothing to do with athom.. On the athom forums.
Athom is paying money to keep the servers online and you are using those servers to buy a homey other that just ordering it from athom..
Seems to me like selling\buying your second hand electronics next to the cach register in a mediamarkt\ bcc\target, coolblue (or pick any other) store. Is it just me or is there something very wrong here?
https://forum.athom.com/discussion/862/cheap-homey-clones-for-sale#latest