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You most probably won't get a timeline, because I guess this functionality is not very high on the list. It works with the bridge, so there's no priority to it.
There are a lot of pros and cons for using the bridge and i'm glad the support HUE
Pros for bridge;
- firmware update of the bulbs (don't know if Athom can do that)
- third party apps (although these apps can be "rebuild" on Homey's platform)
- for now scene's etc. can and keep work
- Hue switches (Tap/Dimmer switch) keep working
- Apple
Cons for bridge;- Slow(Emile mentioned this in several posts and presentations)
- Extra (weak?) link between homey and lights
- Keep track of lights status/color
- more energy use with bridge
- Two point of input (homey and Hue App) which need synchronization
Personally i want to ditch the bridge because of the cons and i don't use switches/Apple stuff/thirdparty apps.Would be great if Athom could connect Homey directly to the lights over Zigbee Light Link
But its not fair to say that it wasn't communicated.
As far as communicated, the are working on Zigbee(Light Link) support. Lets hope the soon release a (beta) for Light Link
One of my biggest irritations on Hue is controlling the standalone (Blooms) with Living Color remotes.
We have one Bloom in our bedroom and we use a LC remote for that. When using a remote, its not possible to connect is with the bridge and controlling the light with the App.
For now it looks like i can use a Simple 433 remote to switch this bloom to preset color. But it would be great if homey can combine the use of LC remotes/blooms/"normal bulbs"/etc
I tried several things, used several howto's (www.beaumotica.nl) and nothing worked....
We have 3 bulbs and 1 Bloom in the livingroom and 1 Bloom upstairs in the bedroom.
The blooms +remotes are less then a year old.
We want to control the Bloom upstairs with the App and Remote.
The Hue's downstairs should only listen to the app.
I you have some advice; let me know
https://developers.athom.com/library/drivers
for instance in:
https://github.com/athombv/nl.action/blob/master/drivers/eurodomest.js
the 433-signal is decoded for eurodomest...
If the prior is not yet exposed by Athom for zigbee you cannot write a HAL driver for it.
However, if prior is done and an API is provided, then you can write specific code for e.g. Hue's directly, through those API's.
Normally it's designed like these layers. The driver you mention, I assume, only decodes data/frames it gets from the API of the 433 real HAL driver. You don't talk to the chip yourself.
So if API to the HAL driver for Zigbee are finished and exposed by Athom, then you can write the rest yourself. Otherwise not. I don't know which of both is the current situation, and I'm speculating a bit.
Is er iemand die weet hoe lang het nog duurt voordat de zigbee chip wordt geactiveerd? Ik heb (zoals in andere topics al te lezen is) een aantal problemen met mn hue. (te veel dimmers/taps/motion sensors) Dit zou in principe opgelost kunnen worden als de Homey mijn dimmers en taps zou kunnen ontvangen. Nu heb ik ook iets gelezen over Zigbee GreenPower (dit wordt gebruikt door de TAP) Is dit een compleet andere vorm van zigbee? Zou het dan uberhaupt hardware matig mogelijk zijn om de TAP en de homey te verbinden als de zigbee chip eenmaal werkt?
So no we have no idea when Zigbee will be available (natively), but agree with you potentially Homey can do a better job then the Hue bridge
haha its not that i found a solution or something! Just asked Jeroen if it couldnt work with the serialnumber (force pair) like someone on the smartthings forum did.
If you have an original hue bridge you can use that method to pair them with that bridge even though they are paired with a different controller? Only thing to figure out is how to obtain the serial numbers when the controller they are connected to is unavailable...
I am not sure, just was trying to look into it (somehow interested or something). But i don't own any Hue bulbs myself, i am glad i bought lightify bulbs with a seperate hue bridge
But the problem is indeed it needs the Hue bridge to reset the bulb. So when you RMA your Homey for example and want to pair al your bulbs again you need to reset them from a hue bridge. (at least how i understanded it)
Phillips hue works best on the Light Link part of zigbee which is a different part then homey uses (Home Automation).
Difference is like the different channels wifi has, so a slight difference in frequency so that it won't interfere.
Both work on a different channel range.
There is a Light Link Reset command which is needed to reset a hue bulb (that includes for the serial reset).
It works like, without serial it will just reset the bulb that is nearest. With serial it can focus on that information on the device itself (looks through all light link devices it can reach for this proprietary tag)
There is also a "steal from other controller" command but that is also light link proprietary.
The Philips hue's dimmer switch does this for example.
as homey doesn't work on light link it can't send the reset command on the correct frequentie range.
The hue bridge only works on light link, so can send the reset command.
But that also makes it so it can't control many other devices like power plugs (most devices work on home automation).
This might change in the future to change the frequentie channel shortly just for the reset, but that's very hard to implement.
And having to let the user buy the bridge just to reset... Not something athom wants to force on to people.