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it is posible to "hack" but you got to have detaild info from the server @ PAC/ARC and the client.
Then you can send fake alarms to the PAC/ARC.
In real life i can not see this happen.
But obviously if this is a wired network it makes things more difficult. If i read the us cert advisory.
https://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/792004
It would appear that a patch has been issdued so maybe this is another issue that is being talked about.
(https://www.smartalarm.nl/)
I have contacted them but unfortunately they don't have an english website,
As we all need more support for devices, would it help if we assist in buying them? I got no problems sending you some PayPal to buy a device I need added and I am sure others feel the same.
Payment for devices is as such not really applicable. If the specs of a device seem doable for me (I'm no z-wave expert!), we can always arrange that someone sends his/her device to me, I add support, and send it back.
App's been submitted to the app store, so should be available somewhere in the coming days.
i have an Idea to Solve the Problem for making an Alarm System for Homey. It is a drive by solution, and i am not happy with it.
If u have one trigger like a Fibaro Window Sensor, that has an "always on state" (like Window open, Window Closed), u can connect it in every alarming Flow. This Fibaro Window Sensor works like the "Alarm armed or Alarm off" button.
If u set the Status of this Window Sensor in every Alarmtriggering flow, like: Movement in Kitchen AND Window Open (the Alarm trigger) THEN Flow "Blinking lights" and "Push Notification on Smartphone" and and and...
In my Mind there can other Devices also be used for Triggering Alarm System on and off, like a Key System etc... So i am just starting with smart Home, i only have the Fibaro Starter Kit and my testing Options are limited.
Also i am German, and my English is also very limited, so i hope someone understands what i was writing above ^^
This Drive By Solution is alot of work, if u have a big House and u want to use every Window Sensor, every Movement Sensor and much more, but it should be manageable. As i see u can put the Flows in an Folder, so it could be divided from the other Flows.
I hope Homey will be able in future to set markers like: If Alarm on Button is pushed (an Button on Dashboard must be able in Future too) then set Marker "Alarmsystem" on Status "On". Second Flow: If Alarm on Button is Status off, set Marker "Alarmsystem" off...
When you make your own Virtual Buttons and use the APP Better logic you can already do all those things you suggested.
Homey seems to me the perfect controller, at least when I look at the specs. I'm deciding what gear to buy. I wonder if there is anybody who has experience with Homey as controller for your alarm devices. I know there are some apps from existing alarm systems (which also are able to operate as stand alone and in that case, if you connect it to Homey, Homey communicates with the controller of the alarm system), though the developers of Homey suggest you can also link the sensors directly to Homey, and let Homey do the job as a controller.
Thanks,
Alexander
If that is one of your business cases you could buy some z-wave motion detectors (for instance the ZP3102 from zipato) and create a flow similar to this one:
The problem is not turning on the alarm; that's easy, i'm using SMART presence app and once everyone has left the house, its enabled.
The problem is not letting the alarm go off when motion is detected. I have multiple sensors, door-window sensors and motion detection. Like the example flow from @jjtbsomhorst, you can easily have the alarm go off. I also have a sirene btw.
The problem/challenge is turning the alarm off.
If you use SMART presence, which is based on Wifi signal of your mobile phone, you are likely not to connect quick enough to use an arrival flow to turn off the alarm. I'm currently doing tests, but in about 20% of an arrival, a sensor is 'hit' because the alarm was still turned on.
So I'm currently building in delays/countdowns. But you want the countdown to be as low as possible. If the thief is already in the house.. I don't want to give him 10 seconds before the alarm goes off.
My current thought is to have a physical way to disable the alarm in my hallway. Maybe a cheap button, maybe a built in iPad with finger print. And i'll do a countdown and people will have 5 seconds to either connect to the Wifi or use the button to turn off the alarm.
If anyone has any suggestions. Let me know.
And make a flow sequence like this:
Flow 1:
If alarm is on AND movement detected THEN set variable "movement", and with a timer of x (like 1 minute) enable flow 2
Flow 2:
If alarm is on AND variable is "movement" THEN "send message that alarm went off"
Then you have x time to disarm the alarm
I only know this thing: https://apps.athom.com/app/hk.com.remotec
Not sure but I expect this 1 would work.
Seems it works through the Fibaro binairy sensor which is supported by Homey through the fibaro app
I would only need to fill in the code or take out the RFID chip in about 10% of the cases. Only when my mobile phone did not yet connect with Homey. I don't think i'll put this on the outside of my house. So i'm not sure what the doorbell button does
I wonder i can make a trigger for that button as well.
I'm using Homey to alert me.. with motion sensors and door sensors. And fire sensors.
Just waiting for 1.5 to be released to Homey can send a photo taken by my Foscam camera's to my phone when an alarm is triggered.
Indeed, one of the reasons I did buy the Homey.
Years ago, we had a burglary and even our 'Police approved locks' did not help a single second. After that we looked for certified alarm systems. Burglars use sophisticated systems to disable those as well. So, regardless the solution...if they target your house, they will manage to get in. You will only discourage the ones who are in for the quick money against little effort. And indeed the insurance will not accept Homey for discounts on your insurance policy. So, do your risk assessment and determine the value of investments you want to put against it.
I do use Homey for triggering notifications to my phone in case there is movement detected by NEO door sensors, Fibaro light switches, Fibaro motion sensors and Hikvision cameras. I am using Better Logic for organizing the status of the Alarm (door sensors only or motion as well) hopefully that will still be up before burglars start braking into our house.
I created 14 flows by now to enable/disable the alarm and to deal with a detection. Any trigger is first validated against the alarm status, next it will report out, set the spectrum to Red, make some noise, send photos to email and send seperate notifications.
Below cards can be used in the IF part:
An alarm went on, you can select the alarm you want for example motion or co2 alarm
alarm went off, same as above but then the off version
a value changed (battery, co2, energy, noise etc)
a device hasn't reported for x minutes